@ML speaking of the Kilo have you considered upgrading the Kilo Imp's sonar performance to make it somewhere between the Akula and Standard Kilo? The 636 Kilos have a far superior digital sonar than the 877 Kilos and I think that should be simulated. I think its best to think of the Kilo Imp's sonar as an Akula Sonar only half the size, while the Standard Kilo's is more like a 1960's sonar only bigger.

Honestly we should also remove the Narrowband capabilities (No LOFAR only DEMON ) on the 877s but I think that would be seen as too drastic of a change.

There is already little difference between the Akula and Kilo sonars.

I gave the 400EM a point more in the flank, and I think two to the cylindrical. That makes it equal to the Akula in the flank array.

If it's realistic, why not? Even though I understand that existing missions would be difficult and nobody would want to play the 877 :-?. But as soon as we have some new missions designed for it. I think it would be fun to add some variety and rely on other methods of detecting surface contacts. Besides, we'd still have the 636. I'm assuming the Alrosa had the standard 877 sonar, right?

Since NB's LOFAR is the kilo's most important sensor, I could only imagine how difficult it would be. I guess attack distances will be reduced and most importantly intel needs to be quite accurate. I should try playing a mission without NB for fun/pain.

IIRC Algeria is the only 877 operator with the improved sonar except maybe India since there subs got a extensive refit.

If you've got a list like on that can you send it to me? Right now I just assumed the EMs were just on the 636s.

EDIT: As far as I can tell, the MGK-400EM (or maybe just "E"?) is on the 877EKMs. there is also a moderization project 08773 that gives 877 Kilos 3M54 capability, which has been done by India and may be done by Iran. http://russian-ships.info/eng/submar...roject_877.htm

The EKMs are in Poland, India, Iran, Algeria and China. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...a/877-list.htm

I dunno about the Polish Orzel being an EKM. Everything I've read (aside from globalsecurity) states that it's an 877E, not 877EKM, and the sources are all from the local region, unlike GS.

http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/89530

http://www.mw.mil.pl/index.php?akcja=orzel

http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.fi...ts/877/291.htm



Similarly, at least two of the ten Indian Kilos were supposed to be outfitted with the indigenous USHUS sonar system, said to offer "improved performance" over its Russian counterparts. This is also one of the sonars aboard India's new SSNs, said to be "state-of-the-art" technology. The boats in question were the Sindhugosh and the Sindhuvijay. I'm not sure if the remaining boats were also upgraded with the USHUS as well.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/militar...it-russia.html

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/S...osh-Class.html

Thanks, those links are very helpful.

Here's a few requests/suggestions for the next version of LWAMI:

-Canadian ships should have a base frequency of 60Hz, not 50Hz. Their ships are domestically made. Subs are british built so 50Hz.

-Could we add the P3 to the canadian aircraft list and call it an aurora?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_CP-140_Aurora

-Why is the oil rig's base frequency 25Hz? Is that some sort of drilling frequency? As far as power supplies, there should be 50Hz and 60Hz versions just like civilian ships.

-LWAMI platform reference guide.xls is missing the type designation of surface units in the information at the bottom of the sheet. We should add it for newbies who might not know what a CGN or a LSD is. Also, it looks like Russia's Grisha was left out of the list.

-The in game link to Victor III doesn't seem to work properly. If I classify a contact as Victor III and then use alt-I. It goes to the USBN (whatever), but it doesn't find the info on it. To see the info I need to manually go to russia and then victor III. I don't know if we can fix this with LWAMI or not.

-The Mk50/54 is a torpedo designed for ASW. But currently it takes 5 to sink the FFG (4 torps x 24,5% = 98%). I think taking flooding into consideration 4 would do the job. Could we increase the damage by just a fraction?

-Suicide speed boats should do more damage. They do so little, they are almost useless. If I remember correctly it only does 3% damage to the FFG. Which means about 34 suicide boats are needed to sink it or a large portion to actually do any significant damage. I don't have any facts, but I'm sure the Iranians have developed boats which could do more damage than this. Does anyone have any leads? I suggest increasing the damage to about 9% at least.

-Iranian navy's C14 china cat's speed increase to 50kts from the current 40kts. The whole idea is a light fast attack platform. Here's a few links. Unfortunately I couldn't find any references from more official sources.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...a/pcfg-cat.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_14_class_missile_boat
http://hubpages.com/hub/Iranian-Military-Forces
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread280632/pg1

-any luck with creating a wreck for the littorals?

Not sure. Do you have any more information on this?


I'm surprised I missed that. I'll add it.

I guess maybe it should. I definitely want it to sound very different from ships, though, maybe I should find another way.

The included legend is meant to explain non-standard abbreviations that were used to save space. Explaining standard abbreviations would take up space, which is going in the wrong direction.

Yeah, I missed the Grisha. It'll be in the next update.

I was unable to reproduce this.

No.

Would be nice.

DW doesn't handle ships above 40 knots well without turning them into aircraft.

I'll save that one for TLAM.

There is an interesting alternative to that, with text to speech freeware programs. Here are some freeware voice packs (accented for various languages): http://www.bytecool.com/voices.htm

Certain sentences sound bad, others are quite good. In general, the more emotion you mut put in the voice, the worser they feel. But for ordinary reports they are great. :rock:

We could transfer the Nerpa to India and call it Chakra
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110316/163037803.html

Here's some answers to an old post

Information about where the ships are made? or that Canada has a 60Hz network? Wikipedia has info about this.

Yeah, I figured out that I had it labelled as a french victor III for which we don't have any info. Would you know what this is?

Is the suicide boat damage hardwired into the game?

About the electrical frequencies aboard their warships. It's reasonable to expect the home country's grid and ships to be on the same freq, but I don't like to make major changes without a source to back it up.

I think a long time ago a bug was reported that one of the Vic IIIs was listed in a French class, or maybe the Vic III RTMK class was listed under France. I corrected that in the working DB when it was reported, so when we finally get around to the next release it will be fixed.

My best guess is that "suicide boat" damage is simply collision damage. There is no database field for "self destruct" damage or anything like that.

Not my idea of strong supporting links, but if you read between the lines...


Uninterruptible power suppler (and other electrical stuff) manufacturer's website:
http://www.naval-technology.com/cont...rical/pivotal/
They supply major US and Canadian defence programs involving land, sea and air applications.

And in
http://books.google.fi/books?id=l-Dz...page&q&f=false
The Naval Institute guide to world naval weapons systems, 1997-1998, Page 733, Canada:

-Paragraph about the MWCS tactical console, in the details it says it's 60Hz


I could probably find more references too, but they would be just as indirect. It doesn't really matter so much as there is only one Canadian ship, the Halifax FFH. I just noticed that in Sonar Profiles LWAMI 310.xls it's found twice with two different sonar profiles. This may or may not be a mistake.

also I posted this too earlier today

Knowing ML it's already added :DL

Frequencies
 

If I remember well the time when I worked for navy projects the French vessels are using 60Hz , even if our national grid is 50Hz. I think that most of the western fleets are using 60Hz, but I would not know about eastern.