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STEED 09-11-15 02:16 PM

All set for the big day tomorrow?

I hear jim went out to buy some very sharp scissors to cut his membership card up with. :ping:

BossMark 09-12-15 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2344017)
All set for the big day tomorrow?

I hear jim went out to buy some very sharp scissors to cut his membership card up with. :ping:

No matter who wins today I will be having a few beers, I will be leaving my house at around 11.30 so the result should be known by then.

STEED 09-12-15 04:07 AM

40 odd economy's said JC's economy plans were sensible, from the radio last night. They also said if he scrapped his Trident and Clause Four plans this would boost Labour.

STEED 09-12-15 04:21 AM

Results due 11:33

Results will posted here in this post.





RESULTS ARE IN

>>>>The winner is Jeremy Corbyn<<<<

BossMark 09-12-15 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2344136)
Results due 11:33

Results will posted here in this post.

The winner is................................................ ..........

Hmm 11.33 shall I stay in for this, and miss a pint :hmm2: or do I get breaking news from sky installed on my phone :hmm2:

Oberon 09-12-15 05:33 AM

Looks like it's Tom and Jerry. :yep:

STEED 09-12-15 05:45 AM

Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour leadership contest

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Jeremy Corbyn has been elected as the new leader of the Labour Party. He won the contest in the first round of voting, with 251,417 votes. The turnout was 422,664.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34223157


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Corbyn Sweeps To Victory With Nearly 60% Of Vote
http://news.sky.com/story/1551339/co...ercent-of-vote




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Tom Watson Elected New Labour Deputy Leader
http://news.sky.com/story/1551344/to...-deputy-leader

STEED 09-12-15 05:55 AM

Callers to LBC Radio have said..

Last 10 years Labour has not been in touch with the voters.

Labour is selecting people straight out of university and the private sector who have no understanding of politics.

Ken Livingston agreed with one caller why is Labour is not selecting councilors who have political experience to become MP's.

Labour is out of touch with the people.







The big question now is will this cause a split and see a new party being formed? :hmmm:

Jeremy Corbyn speech was interesting and looks like he has Scotland in his gun sights.

MGR1 09-12-15 06:24 AM

That's Jimbuna ending his membership of the Labour Party, then.:hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2344148)
Looks like it's Tom and Jerry. :yep:

Bit unfortunate, I think the Tories will make capital out of that.

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2344154)
Callers to LBC Radio have said..

Last 10 years Labour has not been in touch with the voters.

Labour is selecting people straight out of university and the private sector who have no understanding of politics.

Ken Livingston agreed with one caller why is Labour is not selecting councilors who have political experience to become MP's.

Labour is out of touch with the people.

The big question now is will this cause a split and see a new party being formed? :hmmm:

Jeremy Corbyn speech was interesting and looks like he has Scotland in his gun sights.

I think Labour needs to split, but, then, I think the Tories have to split as well. Too many competing viewpoints in each party for a harmonious relationship.

Personally, I'll never vote Labour due to the way the way the Scottish branch of the party has behaved in the past (corrupt, greedy, a complete waste of space, etc, etc) but I can see the possibility of the SNP going in to full attack mode to make sure it hangs onto it's new power base in the western central belt. That's if Kezia Dugdale and company can actually work with Corbyn. SLAB's current leadership is fairly Blairite, so I can see a few problems ahead.

That and they're a branch office, not an independent party. Yet.:hmm2:

Mike.

Moonlight 09-12-15 07:12 AM

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Mr Corbyn said: "During these amazing three months, our party has changed. We have grown enormously, because of the hopes of so many ordinary people for a different Britain, a better Britain, a more equal Britain, a more decent Britain.
"They are fed up with the inequality, the injustice, the unnecessary poverty. All those issues have brought people in in a spirit of hope and optimism.
Can't fault that old boy, now, how are you going to do this as its been like this whichever party is in power. :yep:

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Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said: "Labour are now a serious risk to our nation's security, our economy's security and your family's security.
What!, how many military personnel have you Tories fired since 2010 you plonker. :/\\!!

Some interesting times ahead, the mud slinging of the past is nothing compared to what the future holds me thinks. :hmph:

Oberon 09-12-15 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2320801)
Jeremy Corbyn? :har::har::har: Ain't gonna happen. Far too far left.

So, it seems that I am reliable at predicting Labour leaders as the UK poll system is at predicting General Election results.

If someone put a few quid on Corbyn to win this back when he first put his hat in the ring then they'll have cleaned up this morning. :yep:

STEED 09-12-15 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2344171)
So, it seems that I am reliable at predicting Labour leaders as the UK poll system is at predicting General Election results.

If someone put a few quid on Corbyn to win this back when he first put his hat in the ring then they'll have cleaned up this morning. :yep:

Good job you did not add anything else like..

Jeremy Corbyn ain't gonna happen and I can say I will run down my high street stark naked if he wins which he will not. :03:

ExFishermanBob 09-12-15 12:49 PM

Like a certain pair at the GE...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10237838.html

MGR1 09-12-15 02:54 PM

Sturgeon has spoken (well, tweeted)!

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/s...62844425732097

Officially:

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We congratulate Jeremy Corbyn on his victory and hope that we can work constructively with him in a progressive alliance against Tory austerity. We also call on him to give an early commitment that Labour MPs will join the SNP in voting against the £100 billion renewal of Trident.
However, the reality today is that at a time when the country needs strong opposition to the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn leads a deeply, and very bitterly, divided party. Indeed, if Labour cannot quickly demonstrate that they have a credible chance of winning the next UK general election, many more people in Scotland are likely to conclude that independence is the only alternative to continued Tory government.
In the meantime, it is clearer than ever that the only credible and united opposition to the Tories, north and south of the border, is the SNP.
In other words, Obi-Wan (good nickname that one!:haha:) has about as much chance of winning in 2020 as Nigel Farage saying he thinks the UK should stay in the EU.

Mike.:hmmm:

STEED 09-13-15 05:41 AM

Does not matter who took the helm of Labour 2020 was a write off. Labour is falling apart playing right in to the hands of the Tories and the right wing gutter press is having orgasms banging home the message Labour will kill you, hidden between the lines.

Meanwhile in Scotland stand by for referendum 2, just watch old Toff Boy rush on up to Scotland spreading his lies like last time to keep Scotland in the (defunct) union.

Has anyone seen the Libdems? Have they been abducted by aliens?

STEED 09-13-15 05:44 AM

Jim's doing the great north run and will be back in about a month's time. :)

Bossmark is manning the beer tent at the great north run, get your free beer fast! :03:

Oberon 09-13-15 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2344361)
Has anyone seen the Libdems?

What's a Libdem, is it a form of bacteria?

Meanwhile Dave is scared:

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Cameron on twitter
The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security.


STEED 09-13-15 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2344374)
Meanwhile Dave is scared:

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Cameron on twitter
The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security.
I hear this was sent out to all Tory MP's and the gutter press! He's off the mark with his attack on JC like when he attacked EM saying he backed stabbed DM.

STEED 09-13-15 08:57 AM

Just had Labour on my door wanting to talk about local issues and his first question who did you vote for in the general election? I ask what has that got to do with local issues? He walks away....:rolleyes:


All three main party's here are totally rubbish and today's encounter with one of them proves my point yet again.

MGR1 09-13-15 09:37 AM

Which is why the SNP are doing so well up here - they're not primarily based in Westminster, but closer to hand in Holyrood. They're also an actual Scottish party, not a branch office of a British one. The Scottish Greens have that same advantage in the eyes of the electorate up here.

Another reason is that SLAB is completely out of ideas, full of second and third rate nonentities and has no "grassroots" organisation left. The last was allowed to atrophy and die off because "they'll always vote Labour, 'cos SNP BAAAAAADDDD!":doh: See what I mean about no idea?

What did the LibDems in in Scotland was their coalition with the Conservatives, for not too dissimilar reasons as in England and Wales.

For both parties, running with the Conservatives in the "Better Together" campaign has proven to be almost fatal as well. If they'd actually run their own, separate, campaigns they might have fared better. Maybe.

As for the Conservatives? They're seen as English, not British, and decidedly anti-Scottish.

UKIP has the same image as the Cons.

Why would Scotland vote for a party that it thinks hates it?

Perhaps it's that Conservatism as it's currently understood in the Home Counties and South East of England doesn't really have a historical precedent in Scotland. From a basic look at political history up here, it seems to go thus:

Scottish Liberals,

Scottish Unionists,

Scottish Labour

and now

Scottish National Party.

No Scottish Conservatives in sight until the Scottish Unionists amalgamated with the English and Welsh Conservatives to form the current Conservative and Unionist Party in the late '60's.

Mike.:hmmm:


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