I'm not saying that the DEM's didn't like Trump, I would rather say they hated him.

What I meant is your election machinery this doesn't care who want to be President-as long the person fulfil the demands-such as born in USA American citizen-Only negative thing from your election machinery is that it's human who count the votes. It's not a demand that these shall have neutral political mindset. I guess you have some kind of triple check of the votes and the counting

Markus

Supervised humans counting hard copy ballots is a far more accurate and secure way of conducting an election than any computer counting system could ever be. Results of an election can be independently verified after the fact. That can't be done with electronic based systems.



Only problem with hard copy, if you want to call it one, is that it takes a little more time to tabulate but I'd rather have a result in a couple of days which can be trusted over an unverifiable result splashed on the TV screen right after the polls close.

Election Watchdog Fines Clinton Campaign For Lying About Steele Dossier In Finance Filings


https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/30...nance-filings/

Now that is political corruption on steroids.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/p...den/index.html


Dragons sit in their lairs and guard mountains of gold, Trumps sit in their lairs and guard mountains of other stuff.
https://media02.stockfood.com/largep...eutschland.jpg

There you have it Dave-It's only the DEM's and a certain percentage of the American people who don't wanna Trump to be the next president. The election machinery doesn't care who want to be a president-It only want the candidate to fulfil the the requirements.

If Trump decide to run..it will be up the American voters and not the politicians among the DEM's to decide if Trump shall be your next President - They will of course do their best to prevent this. They will do their best so Biden can win a second term.

Markus

That depends on the type of machinery don't it? If it is being secretly manipulated, as is much easier with electronic voting and I'll throw absentee "analog" voting in there too, then it's actual requirements may be much different than a candidates published qualifications, at least when it comes to winning.

I should have mentioned it
When I used the words Election machinery I meant all of it from A to Z. I don't what every thing around election is called, not even in Swed. Dan. or Ger.

It's a machinery who start when the opposition has found their Candidate.
And ends when a candidate has been elected and is in the White House 20th of Jan.

It's this I meant, The machinery doesn't care who wanna be President. Hope you understand now

Edit
It's not only the machine you use when you shall pick which candidate you want to be the President. I wanna tell you it's the entire election machinery
End edit

Markus

The New Authoritarians

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...authoritarians

Yeah I understand Markus. What I am trying to explain to you is that you cannot consider such a mechanism separately from its operators. Saying the machinery doesn't care who runs it is like saying that the car which hits you doesn't care who it runs over. That might be technically true because cars, like election systems do not have feelings, but regardless it wouldn't have run you over in the first place if there had not been a person behind the wheel directing it.

So imo it's useless to talk about how the election machinery feels about the candidates that are running in an election. What is important is what the people who operate it feel about the candidates and what they are willing to do to make sure the right candidate (in their eyes) ends up the winner.

I do not disagree with what you have said Dave
In the end it's the human who decide who shall be the President. Which I mentioned before.

Personally I don't care who you pick as your President-I only want the election to be true and fair.

Markus

Me too, well I do care who wins of course, but I also want it to be a true and fair election, one that I have some degree of confidence has been conducted that way.

In that light I also believe that the old fashioned hard copy paper ballot that is:

1, Secretly cast at an official polling station by a person whose eligibility to vote in the election has been confirmed.
2. counted by a human, who is being watched by both neutral and partisan observers as they do it.
3. then is placed in a sealed locked container and stored for possible recounting later by whoever may have an interest.

...is still the best and most secure voting system ever invented by man for ensuring truth and fairness in an election.

The second you break that strong chain of custody by digitizing any part of that process you vastly increase the chances of large scale fraud and worse you make it impossible to verify it later. The tracks are forever covered like electronic dust in the wind.

Meanwhile…

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/...anpress.com%2F


What did Ismay say why NATO existed? Wasn’t it to keep Germany down and Russians out? Now I understand who the REAL shifty two faces evil bastards are. Collaborating and colluding with Putin while distracting the world with irrelevant arguments about people who don’t matter. 15 years ago former Warsaw Pact members who lived under the totalitarianism of Moscow warned us of such things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...any/ar-AAVbWFn


Ya but what about Trump? :roll:

If you want to say I am agreeing with German politics, then you have red me wrong and on many occasions.



And while Germany made itself more depending on Russian gas, its not as if your own governments have not kind of snuggled up to Russia, too. Especially Trump, who hailed Russian leadership often, and even when the invasion already had started. He wanted and threatened to give up NATO, didnt he.
His attempt to destroy the constitutional order of eldction processes and to influence justice system would, if successful, send shockwaves of erosion through the whole West. That he constantly lies, liey more, and repeats his lies, is what it is: lying. That so many of you people in the US still believe them, do not mind for them, still support him - that is the real menace here. Trump only can appear strong because his followers are too weak. As I say and said many times before: Trump is just the symptom.

He's nobody in this fight.

The only thing more fascinating than the fascination with Trump is the fascination with those who have the fascination with Trump. Ah crap now I sound like Kamala.:O::O::O: