There are so many ways around minimum wage and so many exemptions is it really an issue?
You say about going down to a Statewide level. Variances within a State can be huge, variances within a single city can be astounding, bringing it down to a workable local level just adds expence, another example of small and local meaning big and expensive.
One problem with minimum wage however is the low level, people on minimum wage jobs basicly pay bugger all income tax and usually qualify for welfare payments and have such small disposable income they don't even boost consumerism. In essence companies paying low wages are being massively subsidised by the taxpayer for very little return.

Business profits, I myself go for either a bonus method or price, or a combination of both. Changing one form of regulation to another form of regulation on profits will work effectively for just about as long as it takes an accountant to read through the changes.

Manufacturing, it isn't dead entirely and can be revived, though that will take either lots of lawsuits or a high level of protectionism.

Innovation is all well and good, but it does require government investment either in subsidies or exemptions as well as private finance....but unless you deal with the outflow of industry then all the innovations you fund will just get outsourced to some third world toxic dump

Well it ain't getting prettier is it ? I thought I'd throw some numbers at you, first one 14 million that's how many people that are claimed to be unemployed, 40 million on foodstamps that means you got 36 million people that aren't make-ing enough money to feed themselves, now I'm going to put a face with these numbers and you say well how are you going to do that??? Well it is me I've out work for 3 to 4 years no unemployment and just 15 weeks of foodstamps, I'm lucky that I had put some money away, I can get a few odd jobs here and there, I got good freinds, and a Lord that has a wild sense of humor, and I need no pity, now you can understand my passion, for conservative government and free markets. I don't blame the banks, they were only doing what they were told too do. I don't blame big corperations, what is it a crime to make money ?? I don't blame millioniares or billionaires, they aren't evil hell I'd like to be one. Heck I should be the poster child for all this occupy crap, and that's what it is, we had Occupy Merrit Island yesterday or today 200 people bused in and gone I missed it, freinds said it was uneventful, seen bigger tea party rallies here, by the thousands, the silent majority. Too finish it is government that got us here and the lack of it will get us out, there is a difference between us and the Euro folk when we vote, as citizens we vote for representation, subjects vote for rulers, the last I knew I was a citizen. We are the greatest nation ever and always will be. Vote Cain.

OK see we are making headway.

While your right, states can have great variances - by definition the nation has a larger spread, and thus a national system serves the citizenry the least.

What do you mean by the "bonus method" or "price"? I might hazard a guess, but I'd likely be wrong and would rather have an informed discussion. Educate me.

Yubba,

You are right when you talk about government being the problem and the lack of it being the solution. However, your wrong on your view of Europe. Europe as a whole uses a lot more "representative" government forms than you appear to be aware of. True, to hear most Euro's talk, they feel they are still under monarchies - just the monarchy of "party" instead of "king" or "queen". Still, is that so much different than the US today - where if a person isn't part of the "establishment" of one or the other "parties" they are below notice?

In many ways, the US and Europe are way to much alike in governance - and it shows because we are all in very similiar baskets.

Although if I were wanting to really throw a wrench into this - I could discuss how the US of A is really a corporation unto itself - and your SS# is actually your employee ID.

Price you just get paid just for what you do, bonus with me is a low basic plus a split.
It all depends on how many are on it, how much supervision I will have ther and how much paperwork I have to trawl through.
You can see why some prefer flat rate for ease but that provides neither incentive or penalty which in the long run costs you money.

you guys better figure it out, but then winter is come-ing see how long they last, and if europe falls I guess we won't have to worry about jobs at least my garden is in and the fishing is great.

You should, on a huge poster with "I am very confused" written on it.
But forget just the posters, you could be the subject for a whole industry of humerous t-shirts and posters and they would never run short of ridiculous quotes to put on them.

That is just so British French German Italian Ethiopian Spanish Portugese Roman Greek Carhaginian Chinese Egyptian...
or is it more of a Soviet mantra:rotfl2:

@Tribesmen, dont waste your breath on Yubba, hes too far gone and he aint never coming back. :D

You never know, there is no shortage of people who have suddenly returned to reality after years of substance abuse and found it completely baffling and gone into meltdown, but some do eventually manage to clear their heads.
Then again Glenn Beck went from being just a drunken junkie to a full on frothing at the mouth crazy loon... another "poster boy" of the "tea party(mainline fringe)":rotfl2:

Is it just me or is there a large lack of African American representation at these OWS protests? Keep in mind the only visuals that I have seen show a preponderance of whites. This of course offered by the media. Also, BO has some how associated MLK and the civil rights movement with OWS. I don't see the correlation.

Oh, its noticed...

That is why "occupy the hood" was started.

Also - thats why the OWS is considering taking a number of its own "white" members, segregating them off and then disowning them as racist....

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-an...al-inequality/

Look at these horrible people picking on Wall Street. They should all be thrown into jail unlike the bankers.
http://i.livescience.com/images/i/20...jpg?1318521979

Fixed that for you.

You forgot the Mongolians, the Ottomans and the Macedonians. :03:

Really? Because if you look at the responses - not one person was against the idea. Not one called it out as being racist in and of itself.