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simsurfer 01-27-10 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken (Post 1248282)
It doesnt work like that. Guild Wars uses this same system, and it works really great. When there's an update, there's a prompt telling you to restart the game (which you do at your convenience), it installs the updated data to you computer, which is still where the game actually resides.

The server is only for tracking, serving updates to you, and your progress in the game. People dont seem to understand this.

And lol @ anyone complaining about privacy. Privacy for what, what you're doing in a VIDEOGAME? Who cares... the positives of DRM far outweight whatever that privacy complaint is all about.

Positives of DRM...:haha:
DRM only serves the interests of the companies that issues the game. I see that there are no positives to the person buying the game, only a whole lot of restrictions.

Aleksandar the Great 01-27-10 12:24 PM

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu UBI!!!:down:

trenken 01-27-10 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by simsurfer (Post 1248301)
Positives of DRM...:haha:
DRM only serves the interests of the companies that issues the game. I see that there are no positives to the person buying the game, only a whole lot of restrictions.

Streaming updates, protected game saves, stat tracking, a new avenue to implement new games modes, are not advantages?

Because I get all that qith guild wars and its pretty fantastic actually. Why someone that has not played a game that uses it would actually try to trash it is beyond my understanding.

simsurfer 01-27-10 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken (Post 1248311)
Streaming updates, protected game saves, stat tracking, a new avenue to implement new games modes, are not advantages?

Not when I can do that now right on my own hard drive with or without being connected to the internet, reconfiguring my firewall, having to worry what big brother is or is not collecting, not being able for some reason to connect to there servers due to a downed connection or a server.

No I see no advantage.

Brag 01-27-10 12:43 PM

The DRM concept of "You pay, I keep" is phylosophically untenable. :nope:

Oberleutnant nederlander 01-27-10 12:45 PM

I wouldve rather like to see something like having to register to UBI rather than DRM with internet connection..

i miss the good old day's of just having to put a code in.:nope:

one other prime example is Company of heroe's and Empire total war. via steam.

steam steam steam !! its all steams fualt haha :har:

only joking.

Oberleutnant nederlander 01-27-10 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag (Post 1248327)
The DRM concept of "You pay, I keep" is phylosophically untenable. :nope:


spot on there....:yeah:

Oberleutnant nederlander 01-27-10 12:48 PM

god, it would be easier if they made the registration of a game more like registering your car...:arrgh!:

trenken 01-27-10 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by simsurfer (Post 1248324)
Not when I can do that now right on my own hard drive with or without being connected to the internet, reconfiguring my firewall, having to worry what big brother is or is not collecting, not being able for some reason to connect to there servers due to a downed connection or a server.

No I see no advantage.

Please list for me the games you've played that use DRM.

sidslotm 01-27-10 12:54 PM

DRM
 
Now it has been officially confirmed by an Ubisoft employee in the German SH5 forum, SH5 will contain exactly this new protection:

Well thats it for me, it's over honey, it ain't going any further.

Maybe SH4 will be re-examined, rebuilt to fore fill it's intended glory by the wonderous modders who dive deeper than allowed by Ubi safety rules.

In truth I expect that even SH5 will fall way short and will require a good deal of modding. This may seem cruel to Ubi soft, I know they do first rate work, I tried recently to animate two little figures for a space ship, it's so difficult. It's, I'm not prepared for another DVD drive change just for this, SH3 caused enough stress for me. But, I will wait and see it this is true, I hope it's not

SLOT

ETR3(SS) 01-27-10 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken (Post 1248282)
And lol @ anyone complaining about privacy. Privacy for what, what you're doing in a VIDEOGAME? Who cares... the positives of DRM far outweight whatever that privacy complaint is all about.

Well if that's how you feel about privacy, would you mind sharing your name, address, date of birth, sexual orientation, any major or minor health issues. Do you go to any adult sites? If so which ones? Privacy is a laughable matter for you so surely you would have no quarrel with sharing this information with us.

vigilante 01-27-10 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken (Post 1248311)
Streaming updates, protected game saves, stat tracking, a new avenue to implement new games modes, are not advantages?

Because I get all that qith guild wars and its pretty fantastic actually. Why someone that has not played a game that uses it would actually try to trash it is beyond my understanding.

Man, with all respect, this is bull****. Political correctly bla-bla with no significance in REALITY. Updates are not coming every day, but very rarely and can be applied manually. If I WANT to apply it.
On the other hand, regarding your previous post, you're right - the game will be released as they want it, they don't care about our opinion.
SH5 will came out with DRM. My question is: as Ubisoft never recognise they have implemented DRM in SH5, what will happen with no-Internet access clients that already payed for SH5? The product is not usable, it's not working at all for these clients. Those people were not aware of that, because Ubisoft never tell them about DRM on SH5. And we're talking about many, many thousands. Think about sailors per instance that use to buy this game to have fun on the long days and nights.
And yes, privacy it's an issue on DRM, just because they log your IP aka location aka address aka NAME. Without permission.

Oberleutnant nederlander 01-27-10 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1248356)
Well if that's how you feel about privacy, would you mind sharing your name, address, date of birth, sexual orientation, any major or minor health issues. Do you go to any adult sites? If so which ones? Privacy is a laughable matter for you so surely you would have no quarrel with sharing this information with us.


and put that in yer pipe n smoke it ! ahhahaha:woot:

Rosencrantz 01-27-10 01:09 PM

Trenken wrote:

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There's only 40k users on this site, many of which are inactive. We arent exactly going to get them to delay this game and change the way the entire save system is structured.


Hello, Trenken!

I think we "haven't met" before. As you have joined in 2006, I assume you were not here when SH III was released and so you don't know the story about non-dynamic campaign of that version. But it was that UBI tried to bring the sim (III) in without the dynamic campaign, just like with SH II. However, all hell loose out within the community, and finally UBI delayed the release with months to get real dynamic campaign in. So we are not that much without any teeths, I think.


Greetings,
-RC-

trenken 01-27-10 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1248356)
Well if that's how you feel about privacy, would you mind sharing your name, address, date of birth, sexual orientation, any major or minor health issues. Do you go to any adult sites? If so which ones? Privacy is a laughable matter for you so surely you would have no quarrel with sharing this information with us.

You're talking about your game information, I think thats slightly different than my personal info. I dont care who knows what about what I do in a game, and thats how it should be. The day I start caring about that crap ill just find another hobby.


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