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marius 03-19-07 07:42 PM
Lucky I don't have a widescreen LCD!

But if this is how the game looks in widescreen... in 2007... then I am speechless.

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:43 PM
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Hmmm I think we are being invaded by UBI.com members. And we all know how they act over that way. Everyone that is complaining (except a few) are mostly brand new members. And I'm sure not going to trust someone named evil666. :rotfl:
mh, you're not right. i got the link from a german gamer forum. to hear from this issue makes many people doubtful, me too. so i decided to register here to have my say. maybe you can imagine that. i have nothing to do with ubi.com. :cry:
Dont listen to him, evil. The subsim-is-best-I-am-looking-down-my-nose-on-anybody-else routine is getting old. (I am not from the Ubi forums either, by the way, original subsimmer)
Stabiz, if you don't want SH4 don't buy it. I still am. You guys can keep complaining all you want about a game that has not shipped, you don't have yet. Nor have seen. And keep quoting threads from ubi, from a guy that says his friend in states said so and so. Be my guest. :arrgh!: Have fun. :p

stabiz 03-19-07 07:43 PM
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Well I must say this is dissapointing for the big reso brigade, of which I used to be one of.....Had a CRT that went well over 1600X1200, now I have a viewsonic 1280X1040 but its superfast at 2ms refresh....

About the Reso being capped at SH3 levels....I'm betting that one of the very first mods that will make it's apperance will be a Resolution hack.....Yes it was done for SH3 and it will probably be done for SH4....Do NOT worry....I wish I could remember the modder but it was a great mod that let you run ANY reso after the mod was run, well not really a mod but a hack of a .dll...The main thing was you needed a program from Microsoft to actually start the hack process and once it was all done and you installed the provided d3d.dll and another small file....you could then open the .cfg and WRITE in ANY reso you wanted and voila....You had SH3 running in glorious 1600X1200 or any other res for that matter
With regards the NO FSAA..I'm sure again there will be a work around...Nvidia users will probably use nHancer and FORCE AA on the game.....Plus with every new version there always adding to the profile list, wouldn't be hard to get SH4 on there HDR+AA@16Q just like Oblivion....on a 8800GTX...

Early days yet.....I'm sticking with my order.(Delux Collectors) We have great modders here that can work up miracles......I BELIEVE IN THEM....

Deep Six
All that hack does is allow UPSCALING the 1024x768 resolution to higher res isn't it? Does that hack actually make the 3D Rendered world a higher res? I mean, all SHIII shipped with was... 1024x768, nothing else. I don't see how the hack could change that. :hmm:
Dunno, but here is an unedited screenshot in 1600x1200 from SH3:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9...0075ub3.th.jpg

tedhealy 03-19-07 07:44 PM
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Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.
Also reported at the official forum

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1711066245

So at least 2 people have seen this, unless those 2 people are one in the same.
If you bother to read the thread you are pointing me too. You will see that its a guy saying that his friend that is Dislexic says that its not turning up. But someone else in the thread says his is fine. Go figure. If your trying to prove a point you chose the wrong thread. :rotfl:
I'm not trying to prove anything. My pre-order is still pre-ordered. I'm just searching for evidence of other people having the problem. I'm searching for a common thread between those that have the problem. Maybe it's the graphic card, or the operating system, or the driver, or whatever. I just don't want it to be the game.

Iron Knight 03-19-07 07:45 PM
I just cancelled my pre-order today.I'll sit on the sidelines for a few months and see how it works out.I'll be in the Med trying to mixed it up with the Royal Navy.

Thank's for the reviews and opinions Gents.

malkuth74 03-19-07 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Yes, this is all a he said she said based off one screen shot.
Also reported at the official forum

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1711066245

So at least 2 people have seen this, unless those 2 people are one in the same.
If you bother to read the thread you are pointing me too. You will see that its a guy saying that his friend that is Dislexic says that its not turning up. But someone else in the thread says his is fine. Go figure. If your trying to prove a point you chose the wrong thread. :rotfl:
I'm not trying to prove anything. My pre-order is still pre-ordered. I'm just searching for evidence of other people having the problem. I'm searching for a common thread between those that have the problem. Maybe it's the graphic card, or the operating system, or the driver, or whatever. I just don't want it to be the game.
I don't either. But to be fair the game is not released yet. Maybe wait a few days to be safe when forum members start getting it? I'm sure by wen you will have all the reviews you need to make up your mind. I will post about it if its true, trust me.

Rykaird 03-19-07 07:57 PM
We're what - 36 hours from having a number of reviews, on different machines and monitors, and more screenshots than we can possibly handle.

I'm not disappointed in the game - don't know enough about it yet - but I can't say I'm impressed with some of the posts today. Used to be the best forum I've ever participated in. Hopefully that spirit will return.

I'm going to the Atlantic, see you all in three days.

tedhealy 03-19-07 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by malkuth74
I don't either. But to be fair the game is not released yet. Maybe wait a few days to be safe when forum members start getting it? I'm sure by wen you will have all the reviews you need to make up your mind. I will post about it if its true, trust me.
Yes the game is not released yet, but enough people have it to make things worrisome.

It will be in my hands wednesday afternoon by the grace of overnight shipping either way, I'm just a bit concerned as I have a widescreen lcd. While I will be rather upset if the game fakes widescreen support, by no means will I return or cancel my pre-order over that issue.

evil666 03-19-07 08:07 PM
@malkuth74

guess i misunterstood your problem. i said i canceled my pre-order, just don't want to buy it, when it is more than a pre-release thread (or myth) on subsim.com. ;)

when the guys in romania fix it soon, i would still buy it when it's already launched. but it's no reason to be so harshly here. :down:

Deep Six 03-19-07 08:07 PM
Tin soldier, nope the mod injected a d3d.dll(Direct3D) that changed the reso completely.....Not just upscaling but TRUE resolution.....

Deep Six

Sulikate 03-19-07 08:08 PM
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I havent seen anti-aliasing that horrendous in a game in over 10 years.
100% agreed.:nope::cry:

Snakeeyes 03-19-07 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate
This looks more like a painting rather than an in game pic. Sometimes the way SH 4 is shown the more I'm dissapointed ( that's sometimes :-? ).
BUT WHAT RESOLUTION IS THIS SET AS? If it's on the friggin' moon then my framerates will be the footspeed of Peppo the Dwarf.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/SH4Sub.jpg
BUT WHAT RESOLUTION IS THIS SET AS? If it's on the friggin' moon then my framerates will be the footspeed of Peppo the Dwarf.

malkuth74 03-19-07 08:14 PM
Ok I'm doing a little test. Maybe this test doesnt mean much I don't know. But basically I took SHIII and shut off AA in my Drivers. Since SHIII uses 1024*768 and people in this thread are saying that the 3d In SHIV only uses 1024*768 they should be comparable. Now to test this I have an image at 1024*768 taken from sime (jpg might downgrade a little) And a second pic of the same picture Resized to 800*600. You tell me what you think?

First Pic 1024*768
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8830/shiiiyj3.th.jpg

Again at 800*600
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9092/shiiion8.th.jpg

Another Pic 1024*768
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/194/shiii2no5.th.jpg

Same at 800*600
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7...iii2ou6.th.jpg

XanderF 03-19-07 08:16 PM
Possible fix to FSAA issue?
 
Just a thought, here, but...maybe...I dare not hope, but MAYBE...could it be...

Everyone remembers the .DLL for SH3 that allowed resolutions other than the 'locked-in' 1024x768, right?

As the DLL is changing how the rendering occurs...it SHOULD be possible for something like this to resolve the FSAA limitations.

And DXTweaker allows for tweaks in the rendering engine to fix issues with Jane's F/A-18 on modern systems with video cards and FSAA.

Can anyone with Sh4 do some exploring in this area?

DirtyHarry3033 03-19-07 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The General
Nobody on this thread even owns a copy of SH4, is that it?
Can't speak for anyone else, but at this moment you're right, I don't own it. Tomorrow when it's released in US, I will, if I can find a copy. I'll try hard to overlook any faults I find and hope that patches and the mods to come will fix any probs ;)

But you gotta admit, the OP's screenie looks pretty bad. Only one of 2 possibilities I can see:
  1. It's how the game really looks. Not promising.
  2. The OP took a lo-rez shot, and a hi-rez shot, then cut-pasted the hi-rez HUD onto the lo-rez 3D world. Why would he go to all that trouble? Don't make sense...
At any rate, I'll find out tomorrow, if I can find a copy. As long as the gameplay is absorbing, that's really all I care about. Awesome eye-candy is cool, but it don't make a game really. The 2 most engrossing games I ever played were F-19 Stealth Fighter (1988) and Silent Service II (1990) on my Commodore Amiga 1000 and I bet the young guys here wouldn't give either a 2nd look. 300x200 rez, 32 colors, blocky graphics, no way they would ;) But the gameplay was fantastic!

That said, I'll go on to say it will be a little disappointing if UBI is upscaling 1024x728. Not a deal-breaker for me, because I want it ;) But a disappointment. If the gameplay is good, I'll be happy. Because it's the gameplay that counts, right?


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