Wow you get personal on here pretty often, kind of amusing.Not worth a l response other than to point out that it is typical leftist behavior to personally attack someone who disagrees instead of engaging in a genuine debate.I am sure that if you could respond and tell me how the left is not exploiting this tragedy, you would.However, you and I both know(as does everyone else) that you can not because they have been since 30 minutes after this story broke last Saturday.

Bottom line....since you could not offer a legitimate rebuttle, you decided to attack me personally.Again, this does not shock me or bother me really, just amuses me in addition to letting me know you had no response.Again, typical lefty behavior.:arrgh!:


Once again, the point of my original post was the left are exploiting this tragedy for political gain, it is disgusting

The police records for his previous insanity:
http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_17079366

We had a guy in E&M who was totally nuts. I looked at his notes a few times, and while derivations of Maxwell's Equations can look pretty, erm, greek, his notes were clearly unrelated to the class and "crazy" just from a glance (some stuff looked more like runes or hieroglyphs). He asked non-sequiter questions, etc. One day he missed class, and the prof told all of us to watch him, and be prepared to tackle him if he came with a gun or something. We all watched him very carefully. Scary to see those reports and how similar they are to my experience with a nut in class.

No disrespect to the victims intended.
But I turned the channel and watched '1000 ways to die' for the first time.
What I did see while flipping channels ticked me off more then anything.
Only thing they needed was Balloons.
But maybe I missed those.

I ask if you're capable of seeing things without classifying the world in terms of left vs. right, us vs. them, cowboys vs. indians, Red Sox vs. Yankees, my opinion vs. wrong....

...and you call me a lefty. I now have my answer.

I'll drop this whole thing, but I'll leave you with this - don't you find it troubling that some of the most level headed and well respected folks around here have chided you?

My only real problem with Obama's speech was that while the bit about "tone" was OK, having it at the memorial connects it to the crime. It would have been better to explicitly mention that tone has wrongfully come up, and while it is a good discussion for the nation to have, it is unrelated.

Mentioning tone at all was in fact giving it credence that it does not deserve.

TTM - you gotta stop feeding tribesman - he lives to troll...

In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said."

Obamain his speech stated:
I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I want to tell you -- her husband Mark is here and he allows me to share this with you -- right after we went to visit, a few minutes after we left her room and some of her colleagues in Congress were in the room, Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.)

This was not the "first time", according to her doctors she had been able to do for at least 3 days... And his announcement was made to a "cheering throng" of college students who turned a memorial into slain victims into a political rally.

Can you say that this was just a "coincidental mis-statement" by the President? Or are we dealing with a man who has gotten so off track that he believes he does rate the "greek temple" in which his adoring minions worshipped him as a god upon winning the presidency?

If you can - watch the video of the speech - watch his pauses and how he looks "over and beyond" the crowd - how he pauses and waits as he basks in the cheers with a solemn mein that indicates it is but what is due to him... Pay attention to how his body language is specifically attuned, and then go watch a speech by Adolph Hitler - another grand orator....

Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history.

But lets not finish there - look at the text of his speech - a good orator can say things and people miss them - caught up in the moment.....

"Bad things happen, and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath." ahh - the shooter bing a freaking nutcase is too simple of an answer - there must be more to it!

"For the truth is none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped these shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind. Yes, we have to examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence"

We can't know what your thinking - so we have to act to make sure you or someone else isn't going to do the same things!

"We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future." How can we stop violence - I know - someone put forward a new gun control bill! (There is one due to be put forward next week now BTW....)

"let’s use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations" - moral imaginations? What the devil are those? Now "expand our moral" (s) I could understand - since the guy talking is pushing socialized medicine, gays in the military - and soon enough - gay marriage..... Expand em to where you don't have any why don'tcha....


"We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we're doing right by our children, or our community, whether our priorities are in order" - support my social programs - screw the deficit - the kids WANT to live in debt enforced servitude to the government....

"We recognize our own mortality, and we are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this Earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -– but rather, how well we have loved -- (applause)-- and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better. (Applause.)" Take from the rich - their money doesn't matter - redistribute wealth so we can all "feel better about ourselves"....

The times, they are a changing. Violence is not an acceptable answer at this time, but while the media fawns over his "best speech EVAH!!!!" - we will see how he and his allies continue to act.. Never forget - this is the administration that stated that you should never let a crisis go to waste.....

Brace yourself America.

"I'm not saying he's Hitler, but his mannerisms are reminiscent of Hitler."

A singular interpretation, CH.

In case anyone was struggling just look at Dr Rhee and Dr Lemole in the article which links off the one Third man posted.
So then false preacher is it just that you have as many problem understanding a doctors words as you have problems with the bible?


Both doctors point out that it was the first time, live with it.

Mookie - I said examples - plural not singular. His oratory has the most in common stylistically with Adolph - who everyone can agree was a bit of a megalomaniac. You can look at Stalin, Mussilini and a few others who also presented in much the same way. Also - look at examples as Thatcher, Reagen, etc - and you see the same skill, but with a different focus. Its actually telling - some look "over the people to the future" - while others look AT the people and discuss building the future WITH THEM - not using them to simply do the job.

Tchocky - yes it is a singular interpretation. However, when the president is also the leader of his party - and his party speaks and acts in ways that demonstrate their continued goal - such as the impending gun legislation - is to further bind the rights of the people instead of solving the problems that contributed (such as state and federal governmental interference into what WAS a working mental health system at one time). A speech is all well and good - but to choose to dismiss the history - and impending acts of, the speaker and those his politics represent - is to be intentionally blind to the reality of the day.

I don't think Obama is "evil". I don't think he is the AntiChrist. But I do believe that if you actually look at what he says - in light of his history of actions and the actions of those with whom he politically has joined himself, you cannot dismiss continued actions that we see happening even after such tragedy.

Oh - and don't forget to sign up for your internet ID - don't worry - Big Brother isn't going to be watching........

Because the poster in question has a long history of never discussing anything, but rather posting diatribe and then claiming to be central on the issues. That kind of writing really doesn't offer anything.

Judgemental has nothing to do with it. If he offered actual discussion I would respond accordingly, which is exactly what I have done when he's posted on the SH3 boards. When discussing the games he is respectful and earnest, and that's exactly the way I treat him. My comments here are only related to his comments here.

Can you point to any post here in which you have ever engaged in a genuine debate?

And again you show yourself to be just as typically "Righty".
He didn't attack you personally, he attacked your habit of accusing one side of wrongful behaviour when you yourself are doing exactly the same thing.

And again, you have done nothing but play politics in this thread. And you're right - it is disgusting.

I've become more liberal in my years...moderate for sure, and one only listen to left wing news and radio can clearly see they're using this for political gain.....so much so that it's now beyond disgusting and a disgrace regarding the crime and pain put on so many people.

The rhetoric here needs to simmer down. I am getting tired of the same three people filling my inbox with reported posts. One is getting a warning, another is getting a time out. Stay on topic and stay away from attacking those who disagree with you, or I'll ban the lot of you.

Neal
SUBSIM

It is nice to see Gifford is progressing in great strides.

shocking event. Nice to see congresswoman Giffords is getting better.

Pretty amazing, all things considered. The human body can take some serious trauma and still pull through. I watched something on TV once about a young man who had been shot in the head with a .357, which destroyed one half of his brain. He survived and over the years the remaining half of his brain had begun to rewire itself to perform some of the functions that the other half normally handles. How awesome is that? :)

I can't imagine how hard this must be for the families. It's such an awful thing to happen.

Apparently the shooter hasn't lost that smirk we see in his mugshot. Reminds me of the kid a few counties up from here that killed two convenience store clerks - he was laughing all the way to his pretrial. Some things I will never understand. :x

Another take (rabbi) on "blood libel."

Who else is sick of this term already?