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Catfish 01-17-10 06:21 AM
Hellop,
i'm still reading and trying, 'twas the first time i realized the AOB would not change after having once entered it - as long as you did not mess it up with certain actions lol :DL
The manual is very thorough, but i'm not yet finished :up:
Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

looney 01-18-10 10:14 AM
I think I'm goin to need to edit the file as to get a better view of the stadimeter and aobwheel buttons.

karamazovnew 01-19-10 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by looney (Post 1239066)
I think I'm goin to need to edit the file as to get a better view of the stadimeter and aobwheel buttons.
Go ahead, just increase the contrast in "\Data\Menu\Karamazov\PeriButtons.tga" file in Photoshop of Gimp. The background should be a perfect black. Make sure not to mess up the alpha channel. I've kept them a bit darker because I didn't want them to look too modern or intrusive.

As a note, my monitor is a LCD that can't display pure black so it's possible that the entire interface might be too dark for some.

looney 01-19-10 01:54 PM
am gonna try that next weekend :)

karamazovnew 02-01-10 12:59 PM
I just added images to the scaling/pivots post, a picture is worth 1000 words :haha:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...28&postcount=7

Hitman 02-01-10 02:34 PM
Hummm theoretically this all could work equally with the american TDC, right? :hmmm:

It has always bothered me that both the slide out TDC and the multi-purpose tool (Range/AOB/Speed) seem to get smaller the higher the screen resolution :damn:

karamazovnew 02-01-10 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1254785)
Hummm theoretically this all could work equally with the american TDC, right? :hmmm:

It has always bothered me that both the slide out TDC and the multi-purpose tool (Range/AOB/Speed) seem to get smaller the higher the screen resolution :damn:
Exactly. Change all items from 0 1 to 1 1 and it should work immediately without any other fuss.

Hitman 02-01-10 03:13 PM
I gave it a quick look, and surprisingly all items seem to be the german ones, despite using FRB :hmmm: Does the multipurpose tool use the same menu entries as the notepad for the german side did (Seems like that but...)?

And where is the slide out TDC?

karamazovnew 02-01-10 03:21 PM
None of the items you're looking for are in the G26 Page... for the US side that only gives you clicking masks, the background and the periscope marks. That's the reason why anyone can use KiuB in TMO or RFB for example, simply by copy-pasting the new dials and the G26 Page, as it doesn't change the US interface at all. There are 3 other pages that control the 3 slideable sections of the US interface, PK, TDC input, Torpedo buttons. I don't remember which they are right now... but they're easy to find.

Galanti 02-03-10 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by karamazovnew (Post 1238054)
So.. did it help? Have I managed to turn anyone to manual targeting? :shifty:
It's a phenomenal piece of work, but...I am mainly loving the eyecandy of having the TDC dials visible from the scope, and being able to work the knobs right from that screen.

The AOBwheel...not so much...is there anyway I could mod the stadimeter to send range to the TDC like in olden times?

karamazovnew 02-03-10 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Galanti (Post 1256908)
It's a phenomenal piece of work, but...I am mainly loving the eyecandy of having the TDC dials visible from the scope, and being able to work the knobs right from that screen.

The AOBwheel...not so much...is there anyway I could mod the stadimeter to send range to the TDC like in olden times?
You can use the old Stadimeter and notepad in the Observation scope. I haven't touched that part. Just remember that using the stadimeter that way will reset your speed to zero and will probably mess up your AOB too :-?

Galanti 02-03-10 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by karamazovnew (Post 1257048)
You can use the old Stadimeter and notepad in the Observation scope. I haven't touched that part. Just remember that using the stadimeter that way will reset your speed to zero and will probably mess up your AOB too :-?
Yeah, I know....I'm going to have resort to a combination of Obs scope, Attack scope and manual inouts to get my hits in while I figure out the AOB wheel.

Is is possible to set the whole TDC to manual, input range, AOB and speed while locked onto the target? In other words, can we use your wonderful mod without the AOB wheel?

karamazovnew 02-03-10 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Galanti (Post 1257063)
Yeah, I know....I'm going to have resort to a combination of Obs scope, Attack scope and manual inouts to get my hits in while I figure out the AOB wheel.

Is is possible to set the whole TDC to manual, input range, AOB and speed while locked onto the target? In other words, can we use your wonderful mod without the AOB wheel?
I really don't understand why you're so against the AOB wheel. It's a wonderful tool. Yes you can set the TDC while being locked on a target but if that target is fast, you'll end up with AOB error. If the target "travels" 20 degrees while you're setting your TDC, the AOB will be 20 degrees wrong. I suggest you persist with the AOBF, it's VERY simple once you get the hang of it. Try making some custom missions and place static ships at known distances and angles. That's how I tested the AOBF in the first place :up:


BTW. my 1000'th post, it's only fair to write it here on this thread :woot:

Galanti 02-03-10 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by karamazovnew (Post 1257120)
I really don't understand why you're so against the AOB wheel. It's a wonderful tool. Yes you can set the TDC while being locked on a target but if that target is fast, you'll end up with AOB error. If the target "travels" 20 degrees while you're setting your TDC, the AOB will be 20 degrees wrong. I suggest you persist with the AOBF, it's VERY simple once you get the hang of it. Try making some custom missions and place static ships at known distances and angles. That's how I tested the AOBF in the first place :up:


BTW. my 1000'th post, it's only fair to write it here on this thread :woot:
Congrats!

I'm not against it, rather I'm terrible with lengthy procedures. I will keep at it.....

karamazovnew 02-03-10 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Galanti (Post 1257206)
Congrats!

I'm not against it, rather I'm terrible with lengthy procedures. I will keep at it.....
Practice makes perfect. It only takes me 20 seconds or so to get an AOB reading. It takes less than 10 seconds to calculate the range. Never try for perfect readings. One golden rule is that errors usually compensate eachother. :haha: That manual might be hard to follow :( I wish I had the time to make a movie, but my voice sucks :haha:

"Heye we zee thye enyemy wessel" :haha:


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