So which is it Austrian? In one post you lambaste us when we send in troops and in this one you lambaste us because we haven't, yet. It seems to me that you Austrians like to stir up trouble but you're kinda short on the follow through, if you know what i mean. Maybe that's why you've been on the loosing end of two world wars. FWIW it's also why we stopped taking you people seriously a long time ago.

Wow. That was harsh. True, but harsh.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Well said fredbass. :up:

Hmm how come you only pick on the Merrikans when people from other countries hate the UN? Anyway that won't work. Not saying anyone is right or wrong I am a bit fed up with it all and am going to bed.

Good night.

Come on guys, let's stop generalizing here,
-the guy is Austrian, = yes
-a Noob = yes
-he never stepped inside the USA or Canada = also yes
So instead of shipping him to north Korea, let him come to the Americas, let him see what we are all about, maybe he will fall in love like all of them do, and if he still doesn't stop ranting about it, then we kick is butt back to Austria, huh! I mean north Korea. :lol:

I second that suggestion. I'm not convinced about the kicking part though. I say if he doesn't like it we sell some of his not-too-vital organs to dictators before anything else.

:rotfl::rotfl:

If you Continue with that, i'll die Laughting! :lol:

Now you refer to me as Austrian. You sure do not like Europeans, this is clear.

You don't take us serious. A big error. This is why we dislike you so much. You ridicule us. You do like only americans would have a Brain. This is not worth discussing anymore.

And what are you talking about north corea now?! HAHAHAHAHA!

It's clear that it's sh**ty there. But...how about sweden? It's way better there.
Better govenement. Cares only about themselves.

But, how about YOU coming over here to Austria? Just take a look how much better it is here. Just...try it. I'm sure you have enought money in your Big Wallet.

Why not try it? Fear it's nicer here?

I would come to America to convince you, but you pay the ticket, i don't have that much money to waste.

Still i think world would be a better place without America. Now i end this, before this escalates into a Flame war. If it hasn't already.

Well I've been there when I was stationed in Germany. And while I will not demean Austria and Germany as a nice place, I will say there's no way I would move there permanently. My standard of living is actually better where I'm currently at here in California, USA. I did enjoy my stay there, but I'm glad to be back home in the USA and wouldn't trade it for anything. ;)

I liked California enough (the parts of it I visited) that its one of the few places outside Canada I'd consider moving too (others are nice climate wise, etc, but I'm too old to learn another language or live as a perpetual tourist)... but only after the current lunatics in charge are replaced.

But its so expensive there that from a purely pragmatic point of view its unlikely in either case (but definitely another visit sometime soon).

Been there, done that, wasn't all that impressed.

In fact I have spent about four years total actually living (as opposed to just reading about it like you) in various European countries, mostly Germany, courtesy of my rich Uncle Sam. I'm actually half German (first generation) and have numerous aunts, uncles and cousins who still live there. So what kind of contacts and personal experience do you have with we Americans to serve as the basis for your often repeated disdain of us?

Never mind, i really couldn't care less. I learned long ago that no matter what we Americans do there will always be a portion of Europeans who will hate us and it's a waste of time worrying about it let alone trying to change it.

I also know, given my own European experience and European family contacts, that your hatred of us isn't nearly as universal as you make it out to be. Either way there is a reason the Americas are called the "New World" and Europe the "Old World", terms coined BTW by the millions of Europeans who have immigrated here for a better life.

August, I think it is because USA is very present and easy to see. A professor (german actually) called it a kind of schizophrenic relationship. Everybody loves american products and culture. People want their movies, pop music, fashion, iPods, games etc. By being so dominantly present in people's lives it is impossible for them not to form opinions about USA. Too bad its based on sound bites in the news and tv drama.

And then there is the policy of the white house, and you bet that no matter what the white house does, it will ALWAYS be criticized. At least as long as USA is united. But europeans are not alone. Your own domestic political scene is full of internal strife and criticism as well. It just seems like whenever an Old Worlder criticizes the same things, the old star-spangled-banner-on-the-4th-of-july gland gets mighty irritated.

I am sure there is nothing REALLY harmful meant by it. A minute fraction of mostly younger than 20 idealist lefties are anti-american in every aspect. Doesn't matter what. The rest are not nearly as vocal. Or even anti anything. For all the words, it is not the old worlders that are the modern day equivalent of red coats to the USA, remember :)

Things are not so simple August. As others have said there are some who will hate the US no matter what. Others it depends on the issue. look at our wordy philosophe friend Skybird, very critical on some issues of the USA, but also of Europe and his native Germany (sorry Sky you are just a good example). On issues like the Islamic terror and well Islam in general, the use(lessness) of the UN, he and several non-Americans are in general agreement with conservative American opinion. It really comes down to who shouts the loudest. :know:

I don't really "hate" the USA. There are nice people there, i just think some, if not most of thier Governement decisions are wrong. Maybe has something to do with the fact that i am a Left Wing atheist and that America is begin ruled by Right Wing Republican radical christians, no idea. The word "hate" was not very well choosen. I apologize.

Or however it's written.

I not "hate" the USA, i dislike it. :know:

The only one i do infact hate is Mr. Bush. He's IMHO the most *meep*ed up president ever. All Presidents you ever had, i disliked, the only ones i hate are the Bush's.

Been there, done that. Nice place. Old buildings, alright beer and everyone seemed nice. What happened to you?:hmm:

Good one, I like that.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I watched sinnlos im weltraum and gone online. That happened to me.:rotfl:

Come on, there were some good ones, Lincoln, FDR, Jefferson, Eisenhower, Truman are on my list. :know: But...all that is subjective eh? :know: I cannot stand the present Bush administration too.

BTW I am glad you said you are left-wing, I hate some of your politicians in Austria, Haider first on the list. I love Austria, well Vienna is on my list of places to visit and find most Austrians I've met to be polite and cultured. I like most Americans too, left or right wing. Heck I like most people, one of the few on this board who likes Muslims and Jews at the same time. :smug:

Those are not so bad. But at least they are lightyears better than bush. ;)

Oh yeah! Haider is horrable. But don't forget HC Strache. HC means "Hans-Christian", but i like to call him "HH", He*l H**ler Strache, cause he's sure a Nazi! Those FPÖ and BZÖ are Nazis, i'm sure they are! Thier anti-imigrants politics, thier propaganda, this really has much resemblance. And everyone here in styria seems to be one of them. :roll:

But i will not give up my political position, even if i have to hide in a hole like bugs bunny. ;)

:up:

Well, there is one thing i leaned from my father.

In every culture, in every nation, you will both a**holes and nice people.

He has some good things to say, actually.

Ditto, and I find the people I've met, or know, in real life are nothing like the superficial stereotypes routinely depicted here; and I would say that one of my Muslim co-workers newly emigrated to Canada from the ME, who has already her B.Sc. in Economics and is fluent in 4 languages, is probably brighter, more tolerant, and better educated than most of the people on this board (including me, who could only ever master english ... and to look at my writing sometimes you'd think just barely) who are forever going off about "the Muslims" as though they were some kind of collective like the Borg from Star Trek. :roll:

You're right there scandium.

But...I've heard Borg!

http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima...borg-18527.jpg
http://sinnlos-im-weltraum.de/pics/SiW_logoNeu.jpg