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Dillinger022 09-02-06 01:16 AM

I had to ditch my U-47 career (1939/2nd Flotilla) during my raid on Scapa because I had hired too many crewmen. So now I'm starting a brand new career for the 2nd time. This time I'm U-51 (1939/2nd Flotilla). For my 2nd patrol (I always do nothing for my first patrol due to the upgrade/no credit bug) I've decided to raid Dover.

I play at 56% realism with only the following realism options disabled:
-Manual Targeting System (however, I manually setup each torpedo prior to firing)
-No Event Camera (makes the game more enjoyable to me)
-No External View (makes the games more enjoyable to me)
-Limited Fuel (only option I feel guilty, from a historical accuracy point of view, of
not using but it makes the game more enjoyable to me)

2 British CLs awaiting destruction in Dover in October, 1939.
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4378/ghed7.png

Torvald Von Mansee 09-02-06 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly
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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee
I snuck in the eastern approach on my first patrol, the same route Prien took when he sunk the Royal Oak. It's easy, right now (late '39), but I seem to recall that Churchill ordered another blockship sunk to block that path.

Btw, I guess renown is actually rewarded on the basis of what is PERCEIVED to be important by the Kriegsmarine, i.e., battleships over carriers (even though the time of the BB is already past)

At the outset of the war noone realised how important aircraft were going to be - especially at sea
The BB was still king and the German ones could in theory cause havok among convoys if they got loose so the British BB spent a lot of time tied up waiting just in case the German surface ships appeared

We know now it was the end for BB

As for Scape flow

Apart from sinking more blockships after the Royal Oak - Churchill had 4 stone barriers built in the eastern approach - causeways in effect ,linking the islands together
Built by Italian POWs

http://www.scapaflow.co.uk/

Well...having something like the Bismarck loose in the Atlantic might have compelled convoys to scatter if it got near them. And then the subs would have had a field day.


Some people did realize the importance of the aircraft carrier at the time, I guess, like Billy Mitchell (who's career was ended for saying so) and Yamamoto. The military is notorious for being conservative in matters such as these, which makes sense as it involves the highest stakes possible.

stabiz 09-02-06 08:01 AM

Yes, thinking out of the box is normally praised after the war.

bigboywooly 09-02-06 09:32 AM

I like this example of the man in the field had the best knowledge


xxxi. Tirpitz was attacked by 12 Albacore from HMS Victorious at 0925 / 9th off the Lofoten Islands. Tirpitz was steaming and manouvering desperately at 30 knots in a 35 mph headwind, and the Albacore were unable to attack from ahead. Instead the flight commander ordered attacks by individual flights, which were avoided. No hits were achieved. One torpedo passed 10 meters behind the stern of Tirpitz. 2 Albacore were lost.
xxxii. A dispute broke out on the bridge of Tirpitz. Admiral Ciliax ordered the helmsman to turn to port, Kapitan Topp shouted “Hard a-starboard. I am in command of this ship, Sir, and not you. Helmsman, obey my orders, hard a-starboard”. The helmsman turned to starboard to avoid a torpedo. One torpedo missed Tirpitz’s stern by 10 meters. Immediately after the action, Cilax awarded Topp with the Iron Cross on the bridge of his ship.

Hehe


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