What has happened to this forum? There is no list of mods in the 'mods' thread, and the search engine now appears completely useless?

The reason that I found both the above issues was that I was searching for a very early thread about the swastika. As far as I recall a mod was not needed, you simply had to tweak the files in a standard install. With the changes to the forum it is now not possible to track this...how useless is that?

Anyway, I do have the tgas with the swastika, and have uploaded them to rapidshare:

http://rapidshare.de/files/21082212/full_flag.rar.html

I don't know whether there are any legal issues with this. If there are, can someome please let me know and I will remove them.

Err actually guys, if you DELETE the Low Res Texture Folder found in SH3/Data/Textures/lowres (leave the TNormal 1 tho) the swastika will appear back on all flags/ships. There is no need to use a mod. See in the FLAG.DAT, SFLAG.DAT file and the BISMARK.DAT file the texture/skin built into those HAS the swastika on it. Its due to the game then reading the lowres texure folder and overwriting the dat file texture/skin. The Low Res Texture Folder serves no other purpose than to be PC.

That's it, Gibs, exactly what I was inferring in my above post, but I could not remember the procedure, and the new forum system makes it almost impossible to track previous posts (unless I simply don't know how to use it).

Deleting the tgas from rapidshare now...

Enemy?
 

:huh: Did I miss something. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this vessel showed up as an ememy . Perhaps this is why Germany lost the battle of the Atlantic. :rotfl:

LOL! :rotfl:

I've since changed the texture to...

http://www.ils2k.force9.co.uk/jr.jpg

I dont know they make an historical error, but that pic is 100% Naval German Flag, the other flag they use more on land...

Warships used the naval flag pictured above, but merchant ships used the other one without the cross, so the game is quite correct.

Can you point me to your source? I've been looking for info on the Internet but I can't find specifics.

I found something on the 'Flags of the World' website, here: http://www.fotw.us/flags/de1935.html#swa . I see that the game's german_m.tga file is even accurate in having the circle off-centre; according to the FOTW website, the centred version was mostly used on land, and the off-centre one at sea (perhaps for a kind of symmetry with the naval flag in position of the swastika?).

Thanks :up:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It is a shame you can't fly a flag on the U-Boat - I'd put that on mine! :lol:

Ref the procedure for re-instating the full flag - I'll give it a try and let you know - thanks! :)

--TangoShadow

No, but you can turn it into a Sub Emblem :up:

That reminds me; I've been searching for the Spanish Treasure Fleet for like two years in-game now, but still no luck. :( Blackbeard keeps eluding me too, and all the ships seem to be ironclads...

Try switching the radar on and moving near the surface near Spain, do it 20 times passing from north to south and he'll eventually appear and pillage and violate your entire crew, it does seriously damage their morale though just to warn you :-j

I think the US version of the game comes with the flag non edited. Somebody here made the point that german U-boats were out there in the name of Hitler and Nazi Germany. It should be noted that the vast majority of Germanys navy were not nazi's and were good sailors following orders in what they believed was defense of their country and way of life. Saying that all soliders and Sailors of Germany during WW2 were Nazi loyalists and fought for Hitler is the same as saying that every solider in the US milltary or UK milltary pledge their full support to Bush or Blair.

:yep: :yep: Clear example can be seen in the book "Iron Coffins" the typical party slogans were a mainstay of the army and Luftwaffe but were kept out of the Kriegsmarine by strong willed captains, they all saluted in the traditional hand to head way, however after an attempt was made on Hitler's life, they became much more nazi focused and were encouraged (near forced) to use the arm raised salute and heil Hitler, many of the crew hated this, with the exception of the youth brought up trained in Hitler youth camps and hosed in propaganda, some of them had no parents to look up to so worshipped the fuhrer.

Naval personnel were not permitted to join the Nazi Party. As you said though, some supported it. One example is Wolfgang Lüth. Excerpts from a speech he gave on leadership;

"They simply must not like it, just as a German man must not like a Jewess"

"We had on board the volume of the 1933 issues of the illustrated news magazine “Die Wochenschau�, a very good paper, which still showed in its first number of January 1933 many pictures of Jews....We hung pictures from this paper in our “show window� duty roster, and there were always interested spectators crowding around. To the right and left were added comments in red and blue pencil."

He also says how he would give talks to the crew about Hitler and "racial and population problems, all from the viewpoint of the struggle for the realization of the Reich"

http://www.uboatarchive.net/LuethLecture.htm

I think he must be one of the exceptions. I remember reading about a commander (might have been Cremer) who was sailing into port. He shouted up to the officers and men standing to greet them "Are the Nazi's still in power?". When told they were he ordered the engines put in reverse for a few minutes :D

All this from a flag question :huh:

Yeah you know...a simple question might degenerate into a flaming debate. Happens most of the time in the forums :yep: ..nothing new