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Linton 04-02-06 10:53 AM

Euro fighter was designed to intercept mig29's in the cold war that never turned hot(thankfully!)It is massively late and enormously over budget!The UK will probably sell some of the massive surplus they have ordered to the Saudi's as they often buy our old rubbish-think Tornado air defence variant!!
Typhoon is yesterdays aeroplane and the sooner the UK can get hold of some JSF the better it will be for the country.
Rapier is a short range sam and I know of no rapier batteries permanently established in Wales.
NAT tracks move every 12 hours due to forecast wind conditions-minimum time routes.
Civil aircaft frequently fly up to 207 minutes from a suitable airport-it is called ETOPS(engines turning or passengers swimming)
US stealth aircraft are now over a decade old and this technology has been superceded :ping:

Kapitan 04-02-06 10:56 AM

ETOPS = Extended Twin Engined Oparations i like your veriant better :D

Id like to see Britiain get something like the F22 but doubt itll happen.

JSLTIGER 04-02-06 11:22 AM

The American stealth that you are referring to here is based on the older F-117. Even if the Rapier battery could have ID'd it (without it squawking IFF codes), congratulations...an ultra-modern missile managed to pick up a 2nd generation stealth design (SR-71 being the first) that has been in service for almost thirty years and is being considered for retirement!

Even if the Typhoon is more maneuverable than the F-22 (which no one knows for certain, but I doubt it thanks to the F-22's thrust vectoring), the F-22 would still be able to pick up a Typhoon far further away than a Typhoon could pick up an F-22. At this point in time, where missiles can kill things BVR reliably, maneuverability is a luxury. Stealth is the key in the modern world. That's why the designs for the latest front line aircraft are stealth-based (e.g. B-2 (last bomber designed), F-22, and F-35).

Rotary Crewman 04-02-06 11:25 AM

We will certainly find out when the two meet at an up and coming Red Flag.

Then there will be no arguments :)

Abraham 04-02-06 11:32 AM

Eurofighter Typhoon
 
There can hartly be an argument now...
Read Cornwallis and JSLTIGER's posts. The F-22 and F-35 are of a different concept and at least half a generation ahead (as stealth is concerned at least a whole generation).
But I'm glad that the RAF has a new true fighterplane, be it the third best.
The last true fighter was the Hawker Hunter.
:D

Kapitan 04-02-06 11:37 AM

I like the idea of the Eurofighter but america is not enamy it is friend and i like that.

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Abraham
The last true fighter was the Hawker Hunter.
:D

Arn't you forgetting the F-4 Phantom? :hmm:

Abraham 04-02-06 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Abraham
The last true fighter was the Hawker Hunter.
:D

Arn't you forgetting the F-4 Phantom? :hmm:

Are we talking about fighter planes or about over-engined, over-sized, badly glued plastic models of which the nose, the wings and the stabilizers hang down...
:D

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Abraham
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by Abraham
The last true fighter was the Hawker Hunter.
:D

Arn't you forgetting the F-4 Phantom? :hmm:

Are we talking about fighter planes or about over-engined, over-sized, badly glued plastic models of which the nose, the wings and the stabilizers hang down...
:D

They were fine aircraft until the Brits messed them up with their Rolls Royce Spey turbofans instead of their proper US built GE J79 turbojets! Still but that badly glued plastic model was the best RAF/FAA fighter since the Spit!

Kapitan 04-02-06 01:59 PM

F4 best fighter since the spit on your bike !

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain
F4 best fighter since the spit on your bike !

Best RAF/FAA fighter since the Spit. Not my fault you guys didn't buy the whop ass F-8 Crusader. :roll:

Kapitan 04-02-06 02:07 PM

Sadly the harrier has to be the best seeing as it shot down so many supersonic fighters in the falklands that were deemed to be so much more advanced than the little harriers.

what was the count some looses to 0

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain
Sadly the harrier has to be the best seeing as it shot down so many supersonic fighters in the falklands that were deemed to be so much more advanced than the little harriers.

what was the count some looses to 0

USN/USMC F-8s Vs. NVAAF MiGs:
19:3

Not bad considering they were using the buggy AIM-9B Sidwinders and had resrictive ROEs.

:ping: Respect the 'MiG Master' :ping:

Kapitan 04-02-06 02:16 PM

It probly has something to do with the fact the migs were not allowed to enguage without ground telling them, which was the case but yeah F8 was a good plane ugly but good.

Abraham 04-02-06 02:23 PM

Eurofighter Typhoon
 
Hey TLAM Strike, what was the name of that attack plane that was deducted from the Crusader. Wasn't that the Vought A-? Corsair II or something? Looked smaller but was actually slightly larger and served in Vietnam (if I'm not mistaken).

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain
... but yeah F8 was a good plane ugly but good.

You know what happens to people who call the F-8 ugly...
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1661/avcrus265ws.jpg
They get fed to it!
:P :lol:

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 02:27 PM

Re: Eurofighter Typhoon
 
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Originally Posted by Abraham
Hey TLAM Strike, what was the name of that attack plane that was deducted from the Crusader. Wasn't that the Vought A-? Corsair II or something? Looked smaller but was actually slightly larger and served in Vietnam (if I'm not mistaken).

The Vought A-7 Corsair II. :up:

My dad was a storekeeper for a A-7 Squadron. :rock:

STEED 04-02-06 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by Kapitain
... but yeah F8 was a good plane ugly but good.

You know what happens to people who call the F-8 ugly...
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1661/avcrus265ws.jpg
They get fed to it!
:P :lol:

Man eating aircraft AHHRREEEEE Mutant.

Abraham 04-02-06 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by Abraham
Hey TLAM Strike, what was the name of that attack plane that was deducted from the Crusader. Wasn't that the Vought A-? Corsair II or something? Looked smaller but was actually slightly larger and served in Vietnam (if I'm not mistaken).

The Vought A-7 Corsair II. :up:
My dad was a storekeeper for a A-7 Squadron. :rock:

That was also a tough bastard, wasn't it?
Didn't the Airforce buy them as was?

TLAM Strike 04-02-06 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Abraham
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by Abraham
Hey TLAM Strike, what was the name of that attack plane that was deducted from the Crusader. Wasn't that the Vought A-? Corsair II or something? Looked smaller but was actually slightly larger and served in Vietnam (if I'm not mistaken).

The Vought A-7 Corsair II. :up:
My dad was a storekeeper for a A-7 Squadron. :rock:

That was also a tough bastard, wasn't it?
Didn't the Airforce buy them as was?

Yea they were tough and strong. My dad loves to say 'an A-7 carry an A-6 Intruder'! Which isn't far from the truth.

They sure could take some damage:
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On 18 November 1971, Major Colin A. Clarke led a successful mission near Thanh Hoa to rescue a downed F-105 Wild Weasel crew. The mission lasted a total of 8.8 hours during which Clarke and his wingman took a number of hits from 13 mm (0.51 cal) anti-aircraft fire. For his actions in coordinating the rescue, Clarke was awarded the Air Force Cross, the USAF's second-highest medal.
and give it in return...
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The A-7D flew a total of 12,928 combat sorties during the war with only 4 losses -- the lowest of any US fighter in the theatre. The aircraft was second only to B-52 Stratofortress in the amount of ordinance dropped on Hanoi and dropped more bombs per sortie with greater accuracy than any other US attack aircraft.
They served in the USN, USAF, US ANG It was also exported to South Vietnam (during the Vietnam War), Greece (in the 1970s, and converted to an Air Defense role!), Portugal, and Thailand (in the late 1980s)


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