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mkubani 03-27-06 10:15 AM

I see JonZ. And what about putting the arrows in the left and right lower corners separatelly while having X in the upper right corner? I understand the functionality you are trying to achieve, it just ruins the nice book cover image you have created imho.

And it would be great to see it in GW update. :yep: ;)

JonZ 03-27-06 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anachronous
Why dont you make it so you click the flags to scroll through.

Because not all countries have two flags. There's few countries that have a Navy flag and merchants flag, like above.

Quote:

I see JonZ. And what about putting the arrows in the left and right lower corners separatelly while having X in the upper right corner? I understand the functionality you are trying to achieve, it just ruins the nice book cover image you have created imho.
Having the arrows that distanced will just make the browsing a pain. Imagine if you have a lousy mouse aim or bad timing, and you have to come back, you will have every time to travel border to border to simply go for one action. Having them close to the title was perfect for me because you focus at the same time on the buttons and the Titles.

The buttons esthetic can change, but I think I will not change the click zones. I think they are fine where they are, but there's room for optimisation.

EDIT: I think I have a better ergonomic browsing in mind rather than having the arrows on top and below the countries titles. I'll post a quick render of it when I'll come back home.

AG124 03-27-06 10:36 AM

OK, that makes sense to me - I like it the way it is. :up: It's certainly better than the stock one.

I would just like to know, which nations will be included? The stock manual of course does not include any flags or names for nations added by modders.

I will be eagerly awaiting the release of this manual. :)

JonZ 03-27-06 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG124
OK, that makes sense to me - I like it the way it is. :up: It's certainly better than the stock one.

I would just like to know, which nations will be included? The stock manual of course does not include any flags or names for nations added by modders.

I will be eagerly awaiting the release of this manual. :)

I'm working on all nations included in IuB or GW, and frankly, it was a PITA to do. But it done. Just need to compress the area, make a batch process and we'll have about, what?, 30 countries? ;)

I am trying also to find out if there's a way to put 'favorites' countries on the top. This is fastidious to browse a bunch of countries while the concentration is around merchants and british shipping.

I will also work on a high contrast pagelayout for people who haven't moded the recognition manual tga files.

It nice because I didn't have to touch any of the ship profile tga files.

gouldjg 03-27-06 10:54 AM

Up and Comming Hollywood Chaos File
 
sry for accidental post

Boris 04-01-06 02:08 AM

Any updates on this one???

JonZ 04-01-06 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Any updates on this one???

Yeah, I have rework the browse again. I think I'll stick to this one.

I am doing other tweaks in the menu ini files. My Docs are almost done and I am doing assorted colors for different taste...

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2...manual60nf.jpg

Heres a shot.

Boris 04-01-06 03:05 AM

That looks awesome! Can't wait for the release.

KptnLt Eric Karle 04-01-06 04:21 AM

This looks wonderful Jonz. Can't wait :up:

JCWolf 04-01-06 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonZ
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Any updates on this one???

Yeah, I have rework the browse again. I think I'll stick to this one.

I am doing other tweaks in the menu ini files. My Docs are almost done and I am doing assorted colors for different taste...

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2...manual60nf.jpg

Heres a shot.


Now, This is a recognition manual, not that stock thing that for mi it's nore like a Hand book...

As allways mate, excelente work bro... :up:

Anvart 04-01-06 02:27 PM

Hi, Jonz!

Good job.
But i want to see arrows under bird on left & right of the year.

Anvart :up:

Boris 04-01-06 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart
Hi, Jonz!

Good job.
But i want to see arrows under bird on left & right of the year.

Anvart :up:

I reckon it would be cool to have a different manual appear every year, and have the ship types (and countries maybe) change according to their entry into the war. SH3 date folders could do this... right?

JonZ 04-01-06 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart
Hi, Jonz!

Good job.
But i want to see arrows under bird on left & right of the year.

Anvart :up:

I reckon it would be cool to have a different manual appear every year, and have the ship types (and countries maybe) change according to their entry into the war. SH3 date folders could do this... right?

I don't know if it can be done, but with SH3 Commander, it can be feasible to update the cover 1939 to the current year. I am doing the 1939 font going through 1945 so SH3 Commander can update the manual through years.

Unfortunately I don't know if removing ships appearing only later on war can be done with the game.

JScones 04-02-06 03:19 AM

It looks very elaborate. For mine, perhaps a tad *too* elaborate.

I couldn't find an example of an actual Erkennungshandbuch, but I found this, which is more in-line with what I envisaged. I note the smaller Eagle - I think the one on your book is too large.

Note the use of Antiquan fonts even though the "Bormann Decree" was not enacted until Jan '41.

Anyway, just my personal thoughts which may well be quite wrong.

JScones 04-02-06 03:24 AM

And this is exactly what I was thinking of!

JonZ 04-02-06 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones
And this is exactly what I was thinking of!

I use the same exact texture of this same book I used for references :p

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6149/ref10bo.jpg


I'm almost done. Here's one of sample of the 7 skins that will be available.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5756/ref26jj.jpg





I'm doing my usual double check and writing documentation right now. I'm hoping a release this afternoon.

Myxale 04-02-06 03:58 AM

Man, this so Rocks! :rock:
The Devs should be humbled by the things this Modders here achieve!

Boris 04-02-06 04:05 AM

--- Double Post :88) --

Boris 04-02-06 04:06 AM

That "Taschenbuch der Kriegs-Flotten" posted by jscones looks like an awesome resource for a lot of things... even only from those pictures.

Rather than just putting Deutschland on the cover, you could replace it by Deutsches Reich, as it is called in the real handbook... as well as calling Britain "Britisches Reich" and the USA "Vereinigte Staaten and so on.

The flags are also a great resource, at it shows the kriegsflaggen (war flags) of many nations that as yet don't have them on the cover... ie. Norway, Finland, Denmark etc.

Also, If you're going to do different years, changing the fonts and colour of the manual might be interesting additions.

JonZ 04-02-06 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
That "Taschenbuch der Kriegs-Flotten" posted by jscones looks like an awesome resource for a lot of things... even only from those pictures.

Rather than just putting Deutschland on the cover, you could replace it by Deutsches Reich, as it is called in the real handbook... as well as calling Britain "Britisches Reich" and the USA "Vereinigte Staaten and so on.

The flags are also a great resource, at it shows the kriegsflaggen (war flags) of many nations that as yet don't have them on the cover... ie. Norway, Finland, Denmark etc.

Also, If you're going to do different years, changing the fonts and colour of the manual might be interesting additions.



You guys are giving me too much job :88)

:-j


Can you list me all the name in your 'appropriate way' before I someone point to me after release that I should have name this country this and that... you know.

Preferably under GW mod. It has the most complete handbuch right now. This will be appreciated.

I've done 7 differents skins colors so dont worry about the variety ;)


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