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GlowwormGuy 03-14-06 04:10 AM

Bad news and good news
 
First the bad news... the game does not have the German TB models for 1932 and 1939 which is really ridiculous as they're similar to the extant 1924 model but with a few guns added and subtracted here and there. So many missing things - heck they should have done at least two Warspites (Malaya type with old style tripods and the Warspite type) and at least two Renowns (Renown and Repulse, box superstructure former, tripod mast the latter) and a VW class with the old number of funnels, not just the single funnel long range version - I mean they had all those Yank and Japanese destroyers etc...

So that's the bad news...

The good news is

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/993...game0md.th.jpg

I'll send it over to Horsa for hosting. Included are the stock Gabbiano repainted as a Vorpostenboot and a 'lifeboat' (just a PT boat repaint in wood texture).

Cheers,
Mountbatten

willi 03-14-06 08:19 AM

Re: Bad news and good news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowwormGuy
The good news is

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/993...game0md.th.jpg

I'll send it over to Horsa for hosting. Included are the stock Gabbiano repainted as a Vorpostenboot and a 'lifeboat' (just a PT boat repaint in wood texture).

Cheers,
Mountbatten

Very, very nice!
:yep:

Scorpio U-1000 03-14-06 08:28 AM

:rock: Good Work! :rock:

:up:

GlowwormGuy 03-14-06 11:01 PM

Hi Horsa, hope you got the file safe and sound!

I'll work on a couple of more repaints for the TBs including 2 color and variant 3 color (green, white, black) schemes so we can get a trifle more color in there. By the way, Scorpio let me know where I can send this (if you'd care to include them in the Italian set or whatever) and Bruno please remind me of your email address again. I'll try and send over the Capetown repaints and a few other things.

hTanks,
Mountbatten

horsa 03-15-06 06:02 AM

Quote:

Hi Horsa, hope you got the file safe and sound!
Nothing received recently :-?

willi 03-15-06 06:02 AM

Hi Mountbatten
Thanks for your offer that we appreciate.
We will try to insert the unity that you will repaint in the expansion MN of next publication, or in a following patch.
The address where you can send the file, you find it in PM.

Willi

:D

Bruno Lotse 03-15-06 10:42 AM

Re: Well Skoda works did pretty good artillery...
You're right. I've read recently that Skoda was the main supplier of naval guns for Austro-Hungarian fleet. Battleships of class Viribus Unitis were equipped with original Skoda guns. So Checks were in no way novices in naval artillery. The reason why French did not want to install Check guns on Dubrovnik was simply French desire to maintain their DD fleet as the most powerful in the Mediterrenian. Check guns were 140 mm capable to throw 40kg shells to 24 km while the most powerful French DD gun was 138 mm. When British built Leader Dubrovnik and installed 4X140mm guns, Dubrovik became the most powerful destroyer (in terms of gunnery) in the world all the way till German experiments with 150mm guns (which proved to be a failure - they eventually reverted to 127mm). Yugoslavians also had three destroyers - Beograd, Ljubljana, Zagreb. These three were based on French Barasque with 4x120mm but again Skoda guns. Italians captured Dubrovik ('Premuda'), Beograd ('Sebenico'), Ljublana ('Ljublana'). Zagreb was destroyed by its own crew who did not want to surrender their ship. Germans took over Premuda and Sebenico - TA 32 and TA43. Ljublana sank in spring 1943.
I like your idea of repainting British cruisers. Looking at stock RN cruisers in the game one might think that RN was in Toulon throughout the WW2 - no camo,no nothing. Have a look at the HMS Arethusa in so called 'Malta' camo, i.e. colors specific for that theater of war.
My email Bruno_Lotse@yahoo.ca

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/263/Color2.th.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7719/Color1.th.jpg

Here's HMS Coventry in 1941. See... She was not in Toulon. She was at Alexandria and as such she was properly painted :sunny:
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1...oventry.th.jpg

And finally my love, heroes of Malta HMS Abdiel and Maxman :up:

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9505/Abdiel.th.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7964/Maxman.th.jpg

Here's another one HMS Maxman in May 1942 painted as if she is a French destroyer Chacal. Ooooh sneaky British. :D Yet, what can you say - blockade runner...
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/7964/Maxman.th.jpg

GlowwormGuy 03-15-06 05:35 PM

will resend
 
Oakydoky will resend and cc to Bruno and Willi as well.

Thanks very much for the lovely plates Bruno. I've actually been doing most of the work on the Dido III (Black Prince - a Dido with 3rd turret removed) and a reworked Exeter posing as Delhi/Capetown class. Would be nice to have different camo versions of others. Particularly for Mediterranean theater as that's where the Italian fleet is expanding (hehehe)

Many thanks,
Mountbatten

Bruno Lotse 03-15-06 09:31 PM

Here some ships to spoil Italian drive to Mare Nostrum :arrgh!:

HMS York
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4426/HMSYork.th.jpg

HMS Enterprise
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9964/Enterprise.th.jpg
HMS Southampton
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1...ampton1.th.jpg
HMS Black Prince
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...kPrince.th.jpg

HMS Scylla
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7691/Scylla.th.jpg

HMS Coventry
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1..._Page_2.th.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5..._Page_1.th.jpg

HMS Delhi
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1..._Page_2.th.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6..._Page_1.th.jpg

HMS Ajax
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2918/Ajax.th.jpg

HMS Swiftsure (well, she wasn't actually there but color plates are quite standard - light gray - dark gray)
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6479/Swiftsure.th.jpg

Parra bellum :rock:

GlowwormGuy 03-16-06 07:52 AM

A few cans of paint...
 
Nice selection there Bruno,

I was getting tired of seeing the Brits in their prewar camo pattern - ie NO CAMO :-j

Let's see what we can churn out with a few cans of paint :up:

Mountbatten

JapLance 03-16-06 10:01 AM

Here's my first try at skinning one of these warship models, using the Scylla profile that Bruno posted above:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1...doclass2ni.jpg

It's not yet complete, I still need to do the damaged version and I still don't know where the model takes the deck texture, but it looks nice :cool: .

Bruno Lotse 03-16-06 10:40 AM

:up:
Keep going!

Bruno Lotse 03-16-06 02:12 PM

HMS Scylla Class Dido second group somewhere near Malta
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7691/Scylla.th.jpg

Her sistership HMS Charybdis at Gibraltar
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2508/Charybdis.th.jpg
Okay, where is Charybdis anyway?

HMS Cairo at La Valetta
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6960/Cairo.th.jpg
Again, where is Cairo?

Aha! No we know why the RN would paint their ships id 'defensive' Malta camo. It could help as long as your enemy short of radars. That was exactly the case with Regia Marina.
:D

GlowwormGuy 03-16-06 04:35 PM

Lovely work JapLance!
 
Hey good on ya mate! That's great too we now have potentially two textures for the Dido types.

You take the deck textures from the GENxxxx files within the model. Use the Hex editor to FIND the files labeled GenBritish or GenUSA etc. These give the deck and flag textures. These are external files (of course) and you don't need to extract them with COVET's tools.

Do let me know which ones you plan to cover or are covering (no harm in doubling up though) so we can cover more ground in less time.

Right now I'll be working on Bruno's TA types so have a go at the Brit cruisers :up:

Cheers,
Mountbatten

Bruno Lotse 03-17-06 01:12 AM

Another famous NCL
HMAS Perth near coasts of French Syria sometime in June 1941.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8492/Perth.th.jpg

Her plates while she was in that area. She'd better stay that way...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6...Plate_3.th.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8...Plate_2.th.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8...Plate_1.th.jpg

Cheers,
Bruno

JapLance 03-17-06 03:46 AM

Here is a link to the Dido repaint:

Dido repaint

I'll give a try at this Perth then :yep: . Definitely all British cruisers need a new paintjob, Ultimation didn't pay much attention to them.

JapLance 03-17-06 08:46 AM

And HMAS Perth arriving at Gibraltar :arrgh!:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4...sperth12xa.jpg

Repaint Perth

Enjoy it! :).

Bruno Lotse 03-17-06 10:33 AM

Wow !!! Looking very good. :up: :up: :up:

We have damage model as well, haven't we?

Guys, can you add a little bit of paint to create an illusion of a typical British bow of your newly repainted cruisers.
That's what I mean. This feature is way British as fish and chips
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8492/Perth.th.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6172/Perth1.th.jpg

Here's another one - HMAS Habart (Perth) and HMS Neptune (Leander) near Punto Silo. Same old story light gray - dark gray.
Picture is taken from HMS Ajax (Leander)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8...Neptune.th.jpg

Here's Ajax herself in Alexandria in 1941. I guess her captain was a fan of chess.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2918/Ajax.th.jpg

Cheers,
Bruno

GlowwormGuy 03-17-06 09:40 PM

looking good looking good
 
Nice JapLance!

By the way, if you've not already spotted this...

http://warships.web4u.cz/typy.php?language=E&stat=GB

Lots of good stuff there!

Meanwhile... HMS Colombo

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2...ombo8mz.th.jpg

(yes it IS the Exeter mod rearmed)

http://www.momoshare.com/file.php?fi...93227457644ada

Will try out your new repaints...
Mountbatten

GlowwormGuy 03-17-06 10:18 PM

By the way JapLance could you also mirror the files as either zip or rar, pretty please :)

Many thanks,
Mountbatten


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