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Camaero 11-28-05 06:00 PM

Well there is an aspect of the game where you run and manage your own Hollywood studio. You manage your actors, crew, lot, all kinds of things. That part was ok for awhile but thankfully you can by pass all of that and go straight to the movie making if you choose.

There is a pretty good sandbox mode on it if you hate that micro management stuff.

Then you can create your actors, shoot your movie using all sets available, use all costumes, and make your masterpiece!

PeriscopeDepth 11-28-05 11:19 PM

OT but...I don't own SHIII, but would you be the same Beery that modded the B-17 TM8th R&R file?

Just curious. :)

PD

Beery 11-29-05 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
OT but...I don't own SHIII, but would you be the same Beery that modded the B-17 TM8th R&R file?

Just curious. :)

PD

That is me. I've worked on a whole bunch of simulations and strategy games - even a couple of sports games. I've been modding for about 15 years. The first game I made a mod for was Red Baron 1, which was released in 1990.

Camaero 11-29-05 01:51 AM

Wow! I used that mod for B-17TM8th every time I installed the game. It really changed the game and bumped up the drama. In fact I think I will go play it until SHIII gets here!

You do good work.

werauchimmer 11-29-05 05:03 AM

I hate myself for this, but being an old "beckmesser" i can“t resist:

WW1 movie? Go fire your props department. The weapons are wrong in some cases. One of the germans wields what appears to be a H&K MP5. The uniforms are wrong for the germans, too....


;)

Beery 11-29-05 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by werauchimmer
WW1 movie? Go fire your props department. The weapons are wrong in some cases. One of the germans wields what appears to be a H&K MP5. The uniforms are wrong for the germans, too....

The game only allows certain props and certain uniforms. There are no WW1 Lee-Enfields, even the British uniforms are wrong, and I had to improvise for some of the details.

Nothing changes it seems. As usual I'm being criticised for flaws in the standard game. I studied WWI for ten years, so I'm well aware of ALL the film's anachronisms, but I can only use the tools I'm given.

TteFAboB 11-29-05 12:17 PM

Beery you are always being usefull, this time you helped convince me not to buy this P.O.S..

Thanks! :up:

Yes, it's all wrong, details were already mentioned so it's no use to repeat. When I was a kid I used to shoot war-movies, just like Geroge Lucas, and even we were more accurate than that, and we had to improvise all of it as we had no budget at all.

This movie feels empty to me, I see no emotion anywhere, the soldier doesn't feel hatred, neither do I, and why should he or I feel anything if there's nothing to feel? There's no tension, no drama, no fear, no excitement, no hate and no love, the movie is too short to show us a bond between the soldiers so if Mr. Bad Actor #1 says he's sad because Mr. Bad Actor #2 died in his arms we have to take his word for it, maybe his jokes were really so good that he pitties he'll never be able to listen to them again?

How about some artillery? Grenades? Flame-Throwers? Tanks? Bi-planes? Trenches? Forts? Collapsible scenarios? Bullets digging holes on the walls? There's none of that in-game? Only semi-auto Lee Enfields and Mp5's? Maybe it would've been best to leave war-movies out of the game.

None of this is your fault of course, those are the game limitations and nothing can be done about them, unless it's modable, I've never played the game so I don't know what you can or cannot do and how hard or easy it is to shoot this movie, so it would be unfair for me to judge your labor, I guess you've made a good job for a software that is more of a "game" rather than a truly "3d Movie Studio" or something along those lines (like the ancient Microsoft Movie Maker).

If there's room for modding in this game, I believe you'd be greatly needed in that department, for me, I'll just wait untill it reaches the bargain bin and buy it for 12.99$ to play for a few days untill all these limitations drive me out of it.

Beery 11-29-05 12:59 PM

Wow! If you feel that way about it, definitely don't buy it. I think you'd be missing out though.

It's not good to get caught up in nitpicking details. Some of the things you're criticising are decisions I made. If you don't empathise with the characters, that's because I chose to make the story very simple and a little detached. It has nothing to do with the limitations of the game.

Frenchie 11-29-05 06:12 PM

Aye, the mp5 was a little strange. :up: Still, did enjoy it, considering I'm at college studying filming and sound production I'm having second thoughts about projects for the coming year and possibilities. :smug: Brits based On the Durham Light Infantry or just a general light unit?

Frenchie

XabbaRus 11-29-05 07:25 PM

Very good and very interesting. with a game like this that has scope for a lot more I'd have thought that there would be pepople making new bits and bobs to add to sets and stuff.

I'd like to try it but am worried that I'd be limited by sets and stuff. I'd love to make a Hunt For Red October type thing.

Iceman 11-29-05 10:53 PM

I thought ya did a great job.....I am type of person that likes to incorporate different programs and see what ya can do with them....Like in Flash I know you could import that whole .avi file and add other effects etc into the movie ..I.E. Layers and such...another cool program "Free" program is Terragen...awesome program for terrains...On my site you can see some examples of it and flash etc....

A good web site I belong to which is free and a great place to maybe show case some of your movies is on http://www.renderosity.com/...Renderosity.com...a palce where artisits meet. ;) GJ keep up the good work. :up:

P.S. and it's free...

benetofski 11-29-05 11:14 PM

Beery:

It looks interesting enough to add to my Santa List! :D


PS. Please tell me 'The Movies' doesnt have 'StarFarce' or some other equally invasive copy protection that can harm my PC and it will get moved up the list real fast! :up:

Gizzmoe 11-30-05 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by benetofski
PS. Please tell me 'The Movies' doesnt have 'StarFarce' or some other equally invasive copy protection that can harm my PC and it will get moved up the list real fast! :up:

It uses SafeDisc.

werauchimmer 11-30-05 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Beery
Nothing changes it seems. As usual I'm being criticised for flaws in the standard game. I studied WWI for ten years, so I'm well aware of ALL the film's anachronisms, but I can only use the tools I'm given.

Wow, cheer up girl. You did notice that smiley at the end of the posting, did you? That one -> ;)

Syxx_Killer 11-30-05 09:21 AM

Wow! Those movies were great! Good job! :up: :up:

I didn't know The Movies could do that. A few times I could hear voices, do they speak English or some gibberish like in The Sims?

Btw, is there a lasting peace with the Krull? I just hate cliffhangers. :88) :rotfl:

Beery 11-30-05 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer
Wow! Those movies were great! Good job! :up: :up:

I didn't know The Movies could do that. A few times I could hear voices, do they speak English or some gibberish like in The Sims?

They speak gibberish, but you can add a voiceover, and you can even get the characters to lip-synch to match your words. I haven't got that far yet, as I find the subtitles are fine for my needs.

Quote:

Btw, is there a lasting peace with the Krull? I just hate cliffhangers. :88) :rotfl:
No. The Krull wipe out humanity, and gang-rape every species of animal on Earth. :doh:

Happy Times 11-30-05 01:31 PM

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No. The Krull wipe out humanity, and gang-rape every species of animal on Earth. D'oh!
:rotfl:

Beery 11-30-05 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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No. The Krull wipe out humanity, and gang-rape every species of animal on Earth. D'oh!
:rotfl:

Yeah, it's a bit of a downer. Currently I'm waiting for the game's first expansion, because I'm kinda held up in pre-production on the sequel because the animal rape scenes are a bit hard to shoot. I can do the gorillas, but that's about it. I really want to get elephants in, otherwise the movie will lose all its meaning.

FesterShinetop 11-30-05 02:22 PM

Yes, this beautiful game has been keeping me away from subsimming as well. It is really good, the filmmaking is fun and even the management part is very well worth it.
It shows in everything how much love and attention to detail has been put into this game!
Haven't seen your movie yet Beery (can't DL at the moment) but I will shortly and also leave a review on the Movies site!!

XabbaRus 11-30-05 03:55 PM

So are there mods for it and is there a plan to expand it.

Oh you are being sarcastic about filming the gang rape scens I hope, even if it is just gorrilas....


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