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Martin1813 10-17-05 04:41 PM

yes, if you use a TI, the boat will turn.
But with a TII, he doesn't know when you'll shoot a torpedo. so he stays straight on. that's why you must use magnetic system on you TII.

it's just a little difference but with magnetic shot, DD has no way out. it works 100%.

It depends on the type of torpedo you have in your sub.

Twitchy 10-17-05 04:59 PM

Yeah, but if the destrpyer turns and you set them for fast at 600m then it turns just in time to take it right at 90 degrees

VON_CAPO 10-17-05 05:01 PM

OK. let's see
1) I got the attention

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5...52504ox.th.jpg

She came straight to me

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3...85622zc.th.jpg http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9...13908vf.th.jpg

First torpedo in the water, deep 0

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3...68759bf.th.jpg

She saw it

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7...17654fl.th.jpg

Torpedo bounces

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7...95782bf.th.jpg

Second torpedo in the water.
She turn only 30 degrees.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5...34217ga.th.jpg

It bounces too

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6...04068ke.th.jpg http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8...24538gh.th.jpg

Twitchy 10-17-05 05:04 PM

Hmmmm.... maybe its because its that type of destroyer, I blew up a Tribal and a type J, maybe they have different specs. Maybe it is different speeds. Try at 1000-1200meters. That will give it more time to turn.

Ula Jolly 10-17-05 05:17 PM

Do I understand this correctly... You fire a salvo with two TIs set to about ten degrees (or more?) from each other, so that when the destoyer sees the trails he automatically turns to either left or right?

Twitchy 10-17-05 05:29 PM

That would work BETTER but I fired them at a 0degree arc. The first one kills it, the second one was just for insurance.

VON_CAPO 10-17-05 06:14 PM

Second try

Location

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/7...85467lw.th.jpg http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3...54159rp.th.jpg

Foreground: Elco, background Somers

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/9...84624fh.th.jpg

I targeted to the Elco, the torpedo bounces despite it had a magnetic setup. :damn: :damn: :damn:

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4...32038bl.th.jpghttp://img428.imageshack.us/img428/2...59372yr.th.jpg http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3...67186ja.th.jpg

The Somers came straight ahead; no evasion maneuvering. Perhaps the torpedos were too deep???

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/2...13466xi.th.jpg http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/8...51784ya.th.jpg

First torpedo bounces, the second one not.

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/5...32818bu.th.jpg http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4...73129iu.th.jpg http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/8...96250ls.th.jpg

Ducimus 10-17-05 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartmann
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin1813
this is a quite old tactic. (I've read somewhere that it was used by US sub agaisnt japanese DDs)

I read a book that say that this tactic was used by Us submarines , but they had a 6 forward torpedos and 2 or 4 in the stern . with a 20-23 reloads.

this make things difficult for the japanese ships, that later in the war where runnig out of destroyers :dead:

From what ive read it was called a "Down the throat shot".

Not a common manuvere, but accounts ive read would lead me to beleive that it was done, albiet seldomly.

And yes, US fleet boats have 6 forward and 4 rear. If memory serves me correctly they also have 4 diesal engines and not jsut two, and could flank speed at around 21 knots on the surface.

Twitchy 10-17-05 06:54 PM

Maybe I am just lucky. I am the DESTROYER DESTROYER :-j :-j :-j

Ducimus 10-17-05 07:00 PM

Personnaly ive taken to shooting those solo destroyers that seem to criss cross out of nowhere. The amount you have to lead on a destroyer doing 25 knots is incredible, but when that fish hits, its halarious. I have fun watching them sink as their skimmiing accross the sea. LOTS of smoke!

gdogghenrikson 10-17-05 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Have you folks been checking this out with various settings for the destroyer AI's crew level? :-?

how do we do that?

Ducimus 10-19-05 09:04 PM

I found a site that has US Submarine SS 238's war diary's (patrol reports), and on its 3rd patrol,

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-warrep-3.html

i found this entry rather intresting and immediatly remembered this thread:


Quote:

At 1441 fired spread of three torpedoes on 110 degree starboard track, range 1800 yards, using target speed fifteen since there had been insufficient time to determine speed by tracking. Observed torpedoes going aft as sound indicated 18 knots, so fired another fish with enemy speed 20. Destroyer avoided by turning away, then circled to the right and headed for us.

Watched him come and kept bow pointed at him. Delayed firing our fifth
torpedo until the destroyer had closed to about 1200 yards, angle on the bow 10 degrees starboard. Then to insure maximum likelihood of hitting with our last torpedo on the forward tubes, with-held fire until range was about 800yards. This last one, fired at 1449, clipped him amidships in twenty-five seconds and broke his back. The explosion was terrific!


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