Never heard of New Age either until now. I think it takes more than a couple of paragraphs to understand it though.
But also I'm fifty and I still don't know what I believe.

I don't get it.

Rockstar writes a massive intro about New Age thinking and call me thick but I can't work out if he agrees with it or thinks New Age is heretical and devil's work..

Ladino? Huh, never heard of it with that name.
Does anyone actually speak that in the present day? :ping:

:) I had to think about that too for a few minutes. I think he disagree's with New Age. He thinks it's the devils work. That's what I got out of it anyway.
They should have a 'shrug' emoticon.

me thinks New Age is a false, worldly doctrine.


For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

I think his many remarks to orthodox christian belief and taking the scripture word by word instead of referring to it's ideas makes it pretty much clear where he stands. I am taking no position pro or against New Age (back in the eighties when i first heared about it, it was a summary label for a multitude of very different things, ideas, traditions, sometime contradictory to each other; and even someone like Fritjof Capra and his famous books "Tao of Physcis" and "Turning Point" were mentioned in one breath with "New Age", it was no cohesive one-tradition-only-organisation). Nothing is more dissapointing than a human mind beeing in bondage to beliefs and hearsay only. You have a brain, so use it, you have a mind, so explore it, you feel a consciousness, so raise and stand tall and raise your head and take responsebility for your next and accept the consequence beeing caused by you, not blame someone else. If your "God" wants you to rob around on knees and mumble magical spells several times a day, this should make you think twice of how worthy this God is to deserve your attention. And if it doesn't make you think twice, you could join the cattle at grass - it is more alive than you are, and causes lesser troubles in the world than you do.

A God of words and scriptures can be murdered with an ink killer. A holy book burns as warm and friendly in a cold night like an ordinary newspaper. A God that you just think out, is your own image and idea and will die as soon as you yourself are dying.

"Do not put faith in traditions, even though they have been accepted for long generations and in many countries. Do not believe a thing because many repeat it. Do not accept a thing on the authority of one or another of the sages of old, nor on the ground of statements as found in the books. Never believe anything because probability is in its favor. Do not believe in that which you yourselves have imagined, thinking that a god has inspired it. Believe nothing merely on the authority of the teachers or the priests. After examination, believe that which you have tested for yourself and found reasonable, which is in conformity with your well being and that of others." (A gem from the Kalamas-Sutra)

Mind is filled by enligthened clearness, so throw away the darkness of all your conceptions. FREE YOURSELF FROM EVERYTHING! (Huang-Po)

$.02 US from Tak:

The only 'true' Christian orthodoxy resides in the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches. Technically, everyone else would be a heretical sect. Thus, heracy is relative.

And some would say just the Greek Orthodox, who did not introduce certain "innovations" that the Roman church did like the Filoque clause, the pretentsions of the Bishop of Rome etc. :P

Seriously before this thing is locked, I must thank the Avon Lady as she made, for me, the most interesting contributions to the thread. :know:

Yes! We have Ladino speakers here and they do exist around the world. Crypto-Jews can still be found in Spain, Portugal and S. American countries, some still speaking Ladino.

We even have at least 1 Ladino music band here. Not my taste, though.

JoeA, I could start a biblical Hebrew class thread but I won't. :P

Music in Ladino?? :o Doesn't look so extinct... :D

Not at all!

This thread is way too deep. Must look elsewhere for a proper reply.

-S

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Thanks for that link!

And some would argue in the case of the Roman church, as it did not alter the accepted view of early Christendom that Christ was indeed imortal. The argument is circular, and without answer, which is why the schism remains today.

It doesn't work. :cry:

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O/T. It's a link to an on-line music shop 'Israel Music'. I love some Israeli artists and know there songs quite well.
Here's the link:
http://www.israel-music.com/browse/music/ladino/
martes86, I bet you can figure out Ladino, just as I can figure out Jiddish (somewhat).

Huh? Since when does Orthodoxy not accept the immortality of christ? The council of Nicaia decided on the dual nature of christ (and that was in order to counter Aryanism).

From my high school recollections, one of the points of the schism was the divine nature of *Mary*. The *real* issues however were ones of politics and power.

Ok, back to topic for the rest of you now :)

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:o Wow, certainly I've been able to recognise some of the songs titles (if not all in some disks) and also I understood lots of the songs samples. Didn't changed that much in 500 years. :D

This sounds like a clip from Conan the Barbarian when he looks into the pool and the chick asks him what he see's and he says..."Infinity"...Embrace the nothingness...what horsepoo. LMAO

The Laws were meant to show sin in it's true light, until the One, in whom the Law is Fufilled came...Now having came,died, and risen from the dead....a way home is established...free of charge...a gift, from the Son of God, Jesus Christ paid in full, in blood.

As any judge will tell you...Ignorance of the law is no excuse from it so dont be too free there Skybird.

You spell that Arianism, Aryanism is another thread. :rotfl: