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OKO 09-21-05 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain
i find janes the most reliable source so id go with janes so the sierra can out dive an adcap acording to janes

Kapitain ...
do you REALLY think US, aware of sierra possibilities, won't improve their torps ?
If you, a simple man (as me) can know the sierra can go that deep, could you imagine one second concerned people ignore it ?
And could you one second consider they won't do anything to solve this threat ?
And do you think it's more difficult to built a sub going at 850 meters or to make a torpedo able to do this ?

now, get all these info, shake a bit, and you will find the solution =>

if a russian sub go to 850m, there will be also an US weapon able to do that.
easy to understand isn't it ?

Ghost Dog 09-21-05 07:16 PM

Considering that there are only a maximum of 3 active Sierra class boats at this time its unlikely that the ADCAP would be 'improved' just to kill 3 submarines in the somewhat unlikely event that its needed to do so.

AND, it bears mentioning that one must consider dive rate! Example: lets say that a 688i sneaks up and rips off a couple of ADCAPS at a Sierra at a range of 6,000 yards. Lets say that the Sierra is at 200 meteres depth. Do you think that the Sierra is going to get below 850 meters in the time it takes those ADCAPS to cover 6,000 yds? Its gonna take those ADCAPS just a bit over 3 minutes to cover that distance at 55 kts. Think a Sierra can dive the extra 650 meters in that time, assuming the russian captain knew about those fish the second they were launched?

This also assumes that the Sierra has room underneath its keel to do this.

Kapitan 09-22-05 01:27 AM

at the moment there are only two sierra class vessels active the rest have been laid up but these remaining two will not be part of the fleet in 2006

yeah i agree america's ADCAP could reach out an kill a sierra as it could an alfa or akula or victor three but i do know it couldnt get a mike just a shame theres none of them left :(

as for out diving a adcap fat chance torpedos would hit by the time it got to 500 meters

timmyg00 09-22-05 10:19 AM

Re: Damage profiles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaQueen
Modeling damage is one of those things that's kind of squishy. If you manage to rupture the right pipes at the right depth, it might only take one hit to sink a submarine, without even bothering to hole the hull because of catestrophic flooding.

I'm not really sure anyone really knows how much it would take to sink a given submarine.

Bingo!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain
nearly all submarines have escape pods so if a submarine does sink then the crew can escape in these pods it wasnt used on kursk because the pod was in compartment 4 and every compartment to 7 was flooded.

These, realistically, are limited to escapes in water depths of 600 feet or less... not because of any technical limitations, but because of human limitations.

TG

Kapitan 09-22-05 10:23 AM

yes that is very true take a look at komsomolets they used the pod when the sub was on the bottom about 2000feet i think it was well anyway they released the pod and when it broke surface the presure inside was so great it blew the hatch open and sucked out two crew and killed the other 42 inside


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