I have to agree that one also - I do not really know why they insist on the CCC. Seems to be just a lot of bells and whistles (extra stuff). Maybe to a more advanced user there is something it does but I have not explored its options.

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Marketing when it came out, now it simply makes no sense to maintain two different Catalyst version. I can understand that from a developers viewpoint.

When ATI "invented" Catalyst AI (some driver optimization stuff) a while ago they had decided to also make a new control panel, the CCC. The "AI low/high" option is only available in the CCC version. It also certainly looks more flashy than the normal panel. "More flashy" equals "more advanced" to some people. Some magazines/reviewers liked it. Fools!!!

Not really. If you want to see some advanced options try the Omegadriver (www.omegadrivers.net). It also includes Catalyst AI and the memory footprint is much smaller. I also like the Tray Tool that comes with it.

All the "bells and whistles" of CCC can be attained by using ATT (ATI Tray Tools), which comes with the 5.7 Omega drivers (optimized) or as a separate download (original). With ATT, I have my X800XL OC'ed to 450/570 and with all the other stuff that CCC can provide turned on and saved to a profile that doesn't take forever to load up like my CCC profile (boots up at startup and standby recovery). Also, ATT has a couple plug-ins that display my GPU temp, enviro temp, HD temp, and processor usage % on the taskbar; very handy for when you're in the testing phase with an OC'ed card like I am right now.

Since this is my first ATI card (ex-NVidia fanboy here), I'm very pleased with the results of the 5.7 catalyst drivers; but displeased with the CCC. Oh well, ATT makes up for it by giving me much better control of my card than I had with any of my other NVidia cards.

The Catalyst Control Center (Is that what is meant by CCC?) is the version of the drivers that require .NET Framework isn't it? I've been using the drivers with the control panel so I shouldn't even notice any difference should I if they get rid of the CCC?

Ah the OC of the card :know:

Yes can be fun indeed. :D

Yes the Catalyst requires NET framework and I have that installed and have tried up to 5.8 the drivers with and without. Yet as big_feef said ATi Tool works very well for tweaking. I am hooked on the Omega set because I am impatient :roll: and always in a rush.

The Omega set gives me what I want yet advanced users like big_feef can take advantage and even pass the performance of the Omega by just using stock drivers - Many at the Guru3D site in fact have done exactly that and even profile by each game the settings the Tool can adjust.

I am wondering now if anyone here has tried the DNA drivers? with SH3?

Have Fun All!

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:hmm: wonder how many posts I need to graduate from "medic" avataar?

i have an ATI 9800 Pro and i tried to DL catalyst 5.8 today but apparently my windows wont allow it to pass a test or wut not. My computer is really screwy i need it reformated

heellpp.

What´s the exact problem? What was the error message? Try the driver without the "Catalyst Control Center". The CCC version needs Microsoft .NET, maybe you don´t have it installed.

This is the "normal" 2000/WinXP driver:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/5-8_xp-2..._wdm_25203.exe

Sounds like he just got the warning message upon install "driver not WHQL certified", got scared and cancelled the install.

If that's what happened, just click proceed anyway, it will be fine.

I think Salvadoreno, just went down with his ship. :rotfl:
Sorry Salvadoreno, couldn't help myself. :dead:

As others say here it most likely the WHQL - Windows hardware/software certification. I suggest an uninstall via the Control Panel and the Driver Cleaner. Before reformat unless you have other issues with the OS.

Download the 5.8 from ATi again if you can to be sure it is not corrupted in dwn load. Have the 5.8 ready on Desktop -

Go to CP uninstall, reboot, DC program set for ATi (your partial install and or prior drivers can leave behind files this will clean it), reboot - Windows will default you to a 600x480 DT res I think, then.

Turn off virus protection (be sure you off the Internet) & some virus progs see driver installs as attacks. Also if you are using the Catalyst be sure you have Net Framework installed and all its updates from Microsoft first.

Run the driver executable; a window may pop up saying not WHQL certified- continue anyway it may pop up a couple times but continue.

reboot

reset your res as you like...

If you still have troubles after the install try going to Start, Run & type in "dxdiag" without the qoute marks, click OK; this is a basic diagnostic of DX and the driver.

Still have troubles try also reposting here or go to:

http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=46

Link is to a great place to post problems - but before posting here they have a great sticky tips to read first to help.

Hang in there mister we can try and help you. :)

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BTW some people find more success with driver installs in Safe Mode you may want to try that also.

g/l <g>

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wow thx for all the help guys!!! ill try to ignore the corrupt warning.. see what happens.

About the only thing I have ever missed from The Control Center is the inherent ability to force a refresh rate on those pesky OpenGL games like Call of Duty that WindowsXP wants to default to 60Hz. If this is available in the Omega drivers, I might change to them.

CCC 5.8 was the first Catalyst package that for me resulted in no gains (but also no losses).

In the past, CCC 5.7 had given me significant gains over 5.6, and in turn 5.6 bested 5.5 .

I'm a tiny weeny Radeon x300 owner, so I've kept a log of frame rates playing on SH3 during the last 5 months.

Although it's not a whole system benchmark, I use the Naval Academy Torpedoes Exam section, ahead slow and surfaced, and looking at three distinct directions for one minute each, to keep my log.

@Pdubya

Omega comes with Mutires a little utility that might do the trick for you in setting/forcing the utility and ATi Tools prog maybe has something also for that issue.

I think a stand alone freeware version of Multires can be loaded from:

http://www.entechtaiwan.net/util/multires.shtm

hope this helps

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Thanks Wolfram, but after I loaded it I kept getting blue screens of death when opening the Omega version of the control center- so... onto ATi's v5.8, which seems to work just fine.

:yep: important thing is you are happy with the your setup then - doesn't matter what drivers.

After a few years of frying video cards I learned that is the secret - enjoyment.

If you having trouble now/still and or the future the Guru3D site worth checking when it comes to video issues.

Have Fun <g>

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Well if they make it so you have to have CCC with the driver only then I'm stuffed, the last ccc that will work on my system is 5.6! both 5.7 & 5.8 I get a cli.exe application error, has anyone had this or know of a fix? :yep:
Thanks.

Uninstall the Microsoft .NET Framework then install it again.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en