For me SHIII works a treat with basic XP, asside from the occasional ctd. But for my '2pence' the only consistent game I play online is Medal of Honor Spearhead. I got this game with the official Medal of Honor 'War Chest' collection to replace the original single disks which were all scratched and knackard (Allied Assult/Spearhead/Breakthrough). Having paid around 30 quid for this and having my system meet the requirement for the game specs, I was very dissapointed to discover that both Spearhead & Breakthrough will not run with the game CD's- repeat error: please insert the correct disk into CD drive!
So, having bought a legal copy of the game from a licenced store I find that the only way to get my legally purchased game to run on my (game spec. conforming) pc, was to resort to 'other alternatives' failing that give my favourite online game back and get a refund, then use my refund to go and buy some baige socks to go with the open-toed sandals that I should now be wearing :shifty:
Quite who is at fault here concerning the games lack of functionality, I do not rightly know. But I know this: If I wanna play it I have to bend the rules slightly and given that I have done everything straight up and honestly obtaining the game in the first place, I fail to see what other recourse was left me- other than to not play.

Piracy is wrong, but so is releasing a defective product and expecting people who bought it not to try and 'fix' the game so it does work for them on machines which adhere to the manufacturer's system/region specification. The fact that some of us have to resort to frowned upon methods is indicative of the more worrying problem of manufacturers expecting joe-public to bend over, spread 'em and take it all the way up with a stiff upper lip and not complain when a product doesn't work; or expect the product to be returned to the manufacturer for the defects to be fixed. You wouldn't expect a new car to not be supplied with the right ignition key, so why should supposedly 'final release' software to be any different?
[/rant over] ;)

@ kiwi_2005
DON'T POST LINKS TO PLACES LIKE THAT DUDE, IT'S A SURE FIRE WAY TO GET BANNED IF YOU DO... IF NEEDS BE, KEEP IT OUT OF THE FORUM AND DISCUSS IT ELSEWHERE

Re: silent hunter 3
 

maybe the your modified .exe file works ok, but the game refuses to play the intro video... :hmm:

most video codecs are 32bit only, as far as i know.
Try disabling the intro video (there are solutions how to do somewere here in the forum)

My suggestion:
Make a dual OS install.

1. 32bit MS os (best win2k)
2. 64 bit winXP

That site i gave does not support piracy they are clearly against it! I cannot see what is all the FUSS ABOUT helping a guy that has trouble with installing a game with that mongrel Starforce. Who cares anyhow theres a way of disabling starforce so ubisoft romaina wasted there time! HA!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Thanks for the good laugh!

:roll:

:D :up: at least your got a sense of humor. No but its true they dont. They even give a warning that they are against copying and before you enter there site you should know this. Put it this way, ring a mircosoft tech and ask him can or does he know of a way to get around a starforce protected cd. They will be happily to give you advice. Trying to make your game run and get around starforce is not illegal.

I can't see what all the fuss is about, im not helping the guy to dl a copy of sh3 or anything like that. Here at my work we all use C**Ks so we can protect our orignals. Its a common thing.

they have a pretty big disclaimer in their start page saying that the page itself and it's contents are to be used only by those who are legal owners of the games they download cracks for...and it's indeed used by many legal customers who simply don't want to be changing CDs all day long to start the games they own. I have been one of them several times in the past. And to be true, if there was a no-DVD crack for SHIII v1.4b, I would be using it right now. And I'm a legal customer and owner of SHIII.

So no, IMO, that's not an illegal site as they don't support piracy. That many people who use it are pirates is not their fault...then again, we all know there are many more places to get no-CD cracks ,and much easier than that way, than on web pages so in the end who cares...

Yeah, you can download thousands of cracks there, but they are against piracy... :roll:

Maybe not in NZ, but, for example, in Germany and the US it is.

Regarding my sense of humor... I hope they kick you out. If, for some reasons, the moderators don´t see this thread I´ll send them a message by tomorrow morning, just to make sure that they see what you wrote. In addition I´ll point them to the "edit the registry to circumvent SF" post that you wrote a few days ago. We will see what happens then. I see it as my duty as a Subsim moderator to report this, even if it´s not "my" forum.

Illegal definiert sich meiner Auffassung nach dadurch, daß ein Tatbestand bzw. Sachverhalt strafrechtlich verfolgt wird oder werden kann.
Beispiel: Drogenbesitz, Körperverletzung, Diebstahl

Umgehung der Kopiersperre urheberrechtlich geschützter Werke wird in der Bundesrepublik nicht strafrechtlich verfolgt (Sofern es sich um eine Privatperson handelt), kann daher nicht als illegal bezeichnet werden.

Außerdem interessant:


Quelle:
http://www.dr-bahr.com/faq/faq_neues...heberrecht_id2


Fazit: schwierige Rechtslage in Deutschland, aber keinesfalls illegal.

Sorry, this posting is only available in german. It´s about the new copy protection law we have in germany since 2003 and the definition of illegal in general. It´s mainly adressed to Gizzmoe.
Ask terrapin for translation :-j

edit:
@ Gizzmoe
Bitte dieses Posting nicht als persönlichen Angriff verstehen, auch möcht ich mich nicht weiter in eure Diskussion (Streit) hier einmischen. Das es aber bei uns im Lande Illegal sei, einen no-cd Patch für sein gekauftes Produkt zu benutzen, konnt ich aber nicht so stehen lassen. So weit sind wir (noch) nicht. Zivilrechtlich sieht die ganze Sache natürlich anders aus, aber wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter. ;)

Ok, dann zumindest in den USA, dort regelt es der Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Ich würde es allerdings in Deutschland nicht darauf ankommen lassen und beispielsweise Cracks online veröffentlichen oder darauf verlinken. Da schlägt dann wie in manchen bekannten Fällen das Zivilrecht (erfolgreich) zu. Mir ist es herzlich egal, ob der Staat mich verklagt oder ein Unternehmen, Scheisse ist es in beiden Fällen. :)

READ THE FAQ

Neal's policy on this is clear. If you are still in doubt about why then...

READ THE FAQ.

JCC

ps READ THE FAQ

Nobody likes a stooly

What´s a "stooly"?

Ok, now I know... A "snitch". You mean me! How kind. Well... <shrug> I don´t like people who simply don´t give a **** about the rules over and over again.

No one snitched, I happened upon this charming discussion all on my own. You just never know when a Moderator is going to show up.

And to Gizzmoe... a great big THANK-YOU for your help.

JCC

Hi Ram,

We have no way of knowing if a guy is telling the truth when he says he has to use cracks and hacks to play a game. But don't laugh at me when I point out that most people play the game without these things. I've never had to resort to that and I've played literally hundreds of games. Of course, there are exceptions--some guy is going to buy a game and blasted luck will keep it from working. I sympathize with him, but as the Register Agreement of this forum states, the Subsim forum is not the place to discuss hacks, no DVD cracks, serial number workarounds, etc. We do encourage tips such as driver info, config settings, normal setup stuff. I'll be honest, it's hard to draw the line perfectly; still, if we open up this box, it sends the wrong message and probably will invite the wrong people to say the wrong things. We ask for you and everyone's voluntary assistance on this forum to honor the rules.



thanks
Neal

Neal:

First of all thanks for this great page. :rock:


Probably you don't remember me from the old forums, but I've been around for a long time. I do understand the need for the rules as they are on the forum right now. I've seen by myself what happens in a forum where open discussions about hacks, cracks, etc, is allowed, and I won't like that kind of people roaming free around here.


I admit I have gone too far by myself on another thread some days ago when I was still stuck with v1.0 and a thread with some starforce-circunvent advices was active. And that I have been stuck with the original version for more than one month because issues which are not my fault at all, makes me sympathize with anyone who has similar problems. I really was expecting for summer to come so I could be at home to buy and play SHIII (can't do with my laptop as the graphics card isn't compatible with the game requirements). You can imagine how I felt when I found out the game won't even start...

That's not an excuse. The rules are what they are and I really went over the top there. Have said I'm sorry about that, and I say it again...but...

Seem, while I'm in full agreement of the rules of the board, I'm for a more ample interpretation of them. What do I mean?...well, if someone comes like on this thread saying "hey SHIII doesn't work even if I put a no-DVD crack on it" I think the best way to answer is not "dude, go away, we don't help people who use cracks here"... something along the lines of "try it without the crack and we will gladly help, as the rules say that no-DVD crack issues can be discussed here" would be much better...

I know for sure that many people around here didn't try to help me with my problem with starforce for the simple reason I was using a crack to play, at least, the v1.0. Many others did indeed try to help me (and I thank them for it). We've seen that the guy who started the thread has got little ,very little, of true advice.


I'm all for the rules as they are set, and for not allowing discussions about cracks, but I'm all,too, for treating people as innocent customers instead of pirates.
I know piracy is very damaging for games like SHIII, but we can't go into a ortodox frency of thinking "if you're using a crack, that's because you don't own the original" each time someone asks for help and admits is using a crack to play the game because it won't run otherwise.


My main problem is not with the rules of the board. They are clear and they have good reasons to exist. My problem is with people who not only won't try help anyone forced to use a crack while being a legal customer, but they actually fall very short of saying "pi$$ off, dude, this's not the place"... or who will say that they will try to get someone banned because they have different thoughts on a given webpage than the one who linked it. I know they have good interests, but,well, I don't like radical attitudes in any way...

In short: I'd like to see a more open-minded interpretation of a set of rules I understand fully.

But that's just me :).


Hope that what I've written is understandable...my english is getting terribly rusty because of lack of use...