Allied countries from SH3 at war with Germany
 

OK, this is a list of start date of war for allied countries in SH3. I think end date of war (only with Germany of course, not with Japan) for all of them should be 08.05.1945, date of capitulation of Germany.

1. Poland - 01.09.1939;
2. France - 03.09.1939;
3. Great Britain - 03.09.1939;
4. Australia - 03.09.1939;
8. New Zealand - 03.09.1939;
6. India - 03.09.1939;
7. South Africa - 06.09.1939;
5. Canada - 10.09.1939;
9. Norway - 09.04.1940;
10. Netherlands - 10.05.1940;
17. Free French - 18.06.1940 (de Gaulle's famous radio speech);
11. Greece - 06.04.1941 (28.10.1940 start date of war with Italy);
12. USSR (not Russia) - 22.06.1941;
13. United States - 11.12.1941 (Hitler's declaration of war);
14. Brasil - 22.08.1942;
15. Italy - 13.10.1943;
16. Romania - 24.08.1944;

It was done for Rubini and Shadow9216, keep your good work guys.

jaxa,

Thanks a lot! :up:

The F1 Help Screen mod will be like this (only the tabs space is not here):

Poland 1939 09/01 - 1945 05/08
Britian 1939 09/03 - 1945 05/08
France 1939 09/03 - 1940 06/25
Australia 1939 09/03 - 1945 05/08
India 1939 09/03 - 1945 05/08
New Zealand 1939 09/03 - 1945 05/08
South Africa 1939 09/06 - 1945 05/08
Canada 1939 09/10 - 1945 05/08
Norway 1940 04/09 - 1945 05/08
Netherlands 1940 05/10 - 1945 05/08
Free French 1940 06/18 - 1945 05/08
Greece 1940 11/13 - 1945 05/08
Russia(USSR) 1941 06/22 - 1945 05/08
United States 1941 12/11 - 1945 05/08
Brasil 1942 08/22 - 1945 05/08
Italy 1943 10/13 - 1945 05/08
Romania 1944 08/24 - 1945 05/08
France 1944 08/26 - 1945 05/08


But I'm not sure if a conflict with the game engine and the Greece date will be had. Perhaps a mod in the defside.cfg is needed before we change the date for Greece.


What do you think?


Rubini.

I`m pretty sure it`s a general game issue and has nothing to do with your mod.
For sure i can say that the strange behavior after save/reload has nothing to to with the "submarine-extension"
you and serbuto made to the mod, cause i recognized it with the very first release of harbour traffic.

Wasn´t there a similar save/reload "feature" in sh2 too? :-j

Gammel,

Uff...thanks for the information, I really hope that the Ai uboats presence has nothing to do with this bug. I'm at my work now and later I will make the test anyway. BTW, I don't remember if SH2 have a save/reload bug. :hmm:


Rubini.

Thanks for the dates. I'll recompile the DefSide.cfg when I get a few and see if Terrapin will post it, along with the added roundels.

Jaxa, can you give me any info on Polish sqns in the battle of the atlantic? sqn numbers, unit codes, etc? I'm trying to get multiple skins to come up with the different nationalities flying for the RAF- Polish, Czech, Free French, etc. If you have any, send me a pm 'kay?

Just upload

One more time: thanks a lot terrapin! Your site rocks! :rock: :rock: :rock:


Rubini.

Rubini - I really don't know, but I'm affraid that you have right.
But is it really necessary to do?

Greece start date of war in SH3 isn't correct in my opinion. I think it is a mistake, becouse in my sources correct date is 06.04.1941, when Hitler's army started invasion of Greece.
I don't know anything about date from SH3 - 13.11.1940. But I've found that 13.12.1940 (December, not November) Hitler signed Operation "Marita" (invasion for Yugoslavia and Greece) for execute.
I think that start date of war for Greece at 13.12.1940 may be accept as historical correct.
Now you don't have to change (mod) defside.cfg file I think. Is it right?

Shadow - no problem.
It was only one Polish squadron in The Battle of Atlantic - 304 Bomber Sqn. from 15 Group of Coastal Command (304 Dywizjon Bombowy Ziemi Śląskiej im. Księcia J. Poniatowskiego). His unit codes were NZ (during duty for Bomber Command) and QD in Coastal Command. Squadron destroyed two u-boots (U-321 and U-441, but last times attack on U-441 was revised)
Squadron was equipped from 1942 with Vickers Wellington Mk. X, XIII and XIV.
I'll try to seek for you some photos or drawings of planes from this squadron.

jaxa,

Yes, I think that is good for Greece for now. Shadow9216 are making a new work with this stuff, then perhaps we will change or adds more information on the F1 help screen in the near future.

I will post a little update with these corrects dates soon.

Thanks again!

Rubini.

Rubini - it was pleasure to work for you :-)
Your mod changed my opinion about SH3 - I like this game more now :-)
Greetings from Poland.

Not "for me" but with me. With all these guys in this community! :know:

Your information is a great help. Please continue to post feedbacks!

Greetings,

Rubini.

What about the Italian invasion of Greece in October? Or was it just between Italy and Greece?

Joea beats me to the punch :) I was about to ask the same thing.

Shadow, joea,

So, what is the correct entry date for Greece?:hmm:



Rubini.

joea, Shadow and Rubini - 28.10.1940 is start date for war between Italy and Greece (it was first day of Italian invasion from Albania), not for Germany vs. Greece. In my opinion correct historical date for war between Germany and Greece is 06.04.1941 (this day Germans attacked Greece and crossed borders).
In SH3 we have 13.11.1940 as start date. Like I wrote some posts earlier I don't know anything about this date. I think that we should acknowledge one of these dates for our work:
1. 28.10.1940 (Italian invasion);
2. 13.11.1940 (SH3 start date);
3. 13.12.1940 (Hitler signed Operation "Marita")
4. 06.04.1941 (German invasion).

What are your proposals guys?

Try to find out when the U-boats were given instructions that Greek shipping could be attacked. Even if the German army was not involved in operations the navy might have been allowed to.

Ahh yes, " that annoying sound bug!" wondered why it was back, downloading now, many thanks for your mod Rubini. :up:

Reece,

Are you listen that sound again after install traffic mod 1.44?


Rubini.

joea - your idea is good, but I can't find it.
I didn't find anything else than 28.10.1940 (Italian invasion) or 06.04.1941 (German invasion). I looked for it on Greek Navy site, many Kriegsmarine sites and books. I really don't know if uboots could sink Greek ships before 06.04.1941.