At 6:30 a.m. local time, Hamas launched a large-scale surprise attack on Israeli territory. Within hours, at least 2,500 rockets were fired, according to Israel. The Palestinians penetrated Israel by land, sea and air and crossed the border into the Gaza Strip at Erez. There, they reportedly captured several Israeli civilians. According to an Israeli spokesman, this morning there have been 22 deaths on the Israeli side and already more than 545 wounded. The resistance group Islamic Jihad, the second armed faction in Gaza, said it had joined the fighters. Palestinians are also said to have captured several tanks from the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF). Clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinians are taking place in villages on the Gaza border. How is it that Shin Bet and the Mossad, surely two of the strongest intelligence agencies in the world, had not seen this coming?

THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army. So it all comes down to a terrorist act. Water on Natanyahu's mill to subdue the opposition, but this seems like a war indeed :hmmm:

Makes one wonder if Iran is behind it ?

Markus

Yep, but with some additional support: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...5&postcount=17
Main goal is to destabilize the US (see Skybird's Focus link). Unfortunately it is working well.

Yes they receive weapons from Iran, what I meant was, is Iran the brain behind this military operation ?

As you wrote:
" THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army."

I see a high probability of Putin's Russia involved.

As he didn't have enough problems with the Ukrainians

It sounds plausible though.

Markus

Putin could use this to divert US attention from Ukraine to the ME.

For Hamas, its about torpedoing the peace process between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Its said that SA could be willing to sign a peace deal with Israel. Thjats why Hamas wants Israel to flatten parts of Gazta and kill as many civilians as possible. That creates healdines SA probably would not ignore, like Egypt already has threatened.

Israel now reports 150 of its own people killed, 1400 wounded.

Bodies of dead Israeli have been pulled through the streets.

Primitive scum is primitive scum, no matter how they dress it up.

I think you’re right, most likely these are two separate issues and I think we’re more than capable of handling both.

Meanwhile 300 Israeli dead, 1600 wounded.

The Gaza Strip would make excellent tinder for a firebombing ala Dresden in the total war that Israel should wage after this arab butchery. :up:

In the short run this is going to stabilize Israel, which has been in a deep political crisis for quite a while. And this is not deep psychology, this was absolutely forseeable. Whoever planned this must have known that attacking like this would be a rallying call for Israelis to unite and hit back as hard as possible.
And while Russia doesn't really profit from this it can always be argued that Russia has done a lot of things recently it doesn't profit from...

Russia, Russia, Russia! :har: Russia's been getting the blame for everything since 2015 :har:

And before. And rightly so.


Meanwhile Hezbollah opened missile fire on the socalled sheeba farms that israel took in 1967. UN counts these as Israel's, not Libanon's.

Does Russian hypocricy have any limits? :)

You're not wrong Jim, aren't they just so concerned! :doh:

Israeli revenge will be swift and far reaching.

Aye if only :06:

Latest reports state Palestinian militants have killed more than 400 Israelis since yesterday's attack began.

The reports add that 2,000 have been injured.

500 Israeli killed, mounting. 2000+ wounded, dozens taken hostage.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share

Will this lead to a state of war between Israel and Iran ?

Hearing and reading the news where Iran has been mentioned, made me wonder if this could happen.

Markus