If you have ever played Microprose's B-17 the mighty eighth, this is the exact same game, only aboard a U-boat instead of a B-17 bomber.

the game wont be for everyone.

if you read through this and have been keeping up with the thread and videos and release notes dev diarys etc and were expecting a sandbox survival game - as advertised - congratulations, you wont be disappointed.

If you didnt do the above, and were thinking this was going to be hours of watching a circle drive across a map while you didnt have to do anything expect sink ships and not run out of gas, well.. you will be sorely upset about your purchase.

this game is 100% about managing your crew, and im not talking about stuff like making sure the radio man goes to the radio when he is supposed to, or making the watch crew individually go on deck... because they do that stuff automatically under 90% of circumstances.

where this game shines, is that you are in charge of a crew of 20 some odd officers and sailors now, not just a one man point and click captain.

do you like playing sims 4?

do you like playing silent hunter?

marry the two and live happily ever after.

but if you HATE sims 4 but LOVE silent hunter... this would be a solid pass.

personally, im crazy about this game and have dedicated an embarrassing amount of play time to it over the past few days.

Most new shoes are... once broken in.. they become part of you.. hang in there.. it is all a "normal" process.. :up:

I have to say that I'm really disappointed from the game. There is such a good basework for a real SH5 TWoS successor, but the gameplay is like "The Sims".

Since TWoS is a mod which took time to develop, also Uboat will have mods and I am sure that also for the harcoresimmers, there will be added more stuff. TDC can be used already and you can calculate on the map. It will be updated soon once the bugfixing will be done. (that's why it is called Early Access)

I have been tempted to buy it to give it a try a couple of times...because the game does have some nice graphics....but the "sims" aspect keeps snapping me out of it.

This game was never advertised as a Silent Hunter clone. The kickstarter was 100% about the crew management concept.

Yeah I don't know why people are 'dissapointed' its not like SH, I can only assume they looked a screen shots and hardly read anything about it.
Still they can likley mod it to play that way in future if don't just refund it.

I know that the game concept was not a SH like simulation game and more about "crew management". I don't put the blame on the developers but I hoped it can be used more in a simulation gameplay style. So I tried it.
At the moment it's no game for me personaly, because of to many foolish things to do with the crew instead of concentrate on the combat itself.



But I see a great perspective for the game if it is modded in a simulation matter.

I did my first game yesterday on Uboat, and after so many time on SH games, it s a bit difficult to switch... But, even if i think, too many things are missing (no salvo, no spread angle, no torpedo speed settings, no torpedo deep settings, no magnetic detonators, no access to chronometer on map screen, no charts... ) I take pleasure to make this first patrol... First target sunk easly, with manual fire solution find on the map, the second, was with a ****ing bad 139° aob at 5km, easy shoot for me on any moded SH but a miss on Uboat :D

The game is prety young, i m sure we'll get like in SH some difficulty and realism options available later during the game dev, aswel about more ships, subs and all things needed in a good Uboat simulation. I don't think the crew management is actually perfect, but it's a good start and a fresh way to play with our favorites toys :D

Best evidence indicates that the phrase was first used to describe trench warfare in World War 1, when it was "Months of bordom etc).
https://english.stackexchange.com/qu...rror-come-from

Also, have a look at the patrols of U-48, considered as the "most successful".

https://www.uboat.net/boats/patrols/u48.html

Patrols are between 20-30 days, with ships sunk between 0-8.

Basically, what most needed is a new SH3, with state-of-the art graphics and optional multiplayer. More ships, more variations, maybe some elements of procedural generation and/or dynamic campaign.

I don't think we can mod this to a playable state. At least, not yet.

That's probably never going to happen, I'm sorry to say. Indie developers have limited resources, and AAA developers won't touch this genre with a ten foot barge pole. Ubi themselves appear to have given up on Silent Hunter for good, probably as a result of the backlash and nonsense surrounding SH5.

I said at the time that dumping on SH5 as hard as this community did was only going to drive away the one publisher prepared to take the risk, and I'm afraid that's exactly what happened. It was likely already a break-even series for Ubi, so all the bad press achieved was making it even easier for them to write it off and move on to more profitable ventures.

At this point I'd say we're very lucky to have UBOAT, and we either give it a chance, or else we can look forward to nothing for the foreseeable future. Eventually the older titles will struggle with newer operating systems, and if there's no new games on the horizon, then this could pose a rather significant problem for many of us.

Let's not sink this one early chaps, please!

I don't know about most, but there is certainly a faction who wanted that.

And yeah what you are witnessing with Uboat is a game with roughly the same scope and depth as SH3, but how long it takes for a team of 3 to complete and polish what a team of about 30 made previously.

The only advantage Deepwater has is that they did not have to build the games engine from the ground up as they went with Unity. otherwise compared to UBI's manpower, funding and resources they are disadvantaged in every way imaginable.

Come on, with the SH games Ubisoft delivered a series of buggy, unfinished products that were DRM'ed to death. The backlash was, and still is, completely justified. I know the current standard is to accept any and all half-finished shovelware publishers throw at the public, under the calling "support the devs, it's better than nothing!", but with that attitude the situation will never change and consumers will be kept being put over a barrel.

Ubisoft should've known that a mediocre effort leads to mediocre sales.

Here is a crazy idea, what about us... Subsim?

Can't we develop a game to our standard?

I mean, Neal tagged along with Wolfpack, and look what happened there. A pretty damn good game.

And I know we have great guys here who are, were, or interested in game development.

Can we build our own superior sub simulator?

I have limited game knowledge, but I would gladly help!

^this

I'll give Wolfpack a try once they incorporate solo play options. I hear that's at least in the works... although I haven't been following it too closely. I would not be as excited for instance if they just programmed bots to do what the humans are doing now. Rather, I'd want playable stations that I can rapidly switch between.

You got to try the game with people it’s fun!

I'm sure it is... If it doesn't have solo though, it's a non-starter for me.