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Sky proves that all atheist are not the same just like all Christ followers are not the same. I was also shocked with the news that Jesse is seeking $54 million dollars in funds to purchase a jet plane )of which he already has (4) planes.

It is the love of money and the love of the world (lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh) that is driving this preacher Jesse Duplantis to seek this venue to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ using a $54 million dollar jet that seats 8 passengers and three crew. His preacher friend Kenneth Copeland also has the same problem. They are of the same ink ...

The good Lord gives discernment to those that seek it .., I for one do not follow these evangelist.

Birds of a feather flock together, but must I remind you not to judge Christ followers or diabolical, agnostic, atheist for their faith, but for their fruit. :yep:



Kenneth Copeland Ministries Gulfstream V


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxmQmDEytdo

This was a great explanation of tele-evangelists. There is a huge difference in true believers and those like these tele-evangelists. Sadly, if they bought this idiot 3 jets already, they are likely to buy him the forth as well.



Nice job of pointing out the differences. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

My first thoughts were OMG Jesse just might get that $54 million dollar jet with all of this free advertising :haha:

Why doesn't he trying praying for the plane? :hmmm:

Anything to get into your wallet.:doh:

:haha: That's a possibility. I rather think this episode will wake people up to how these Idiots operate, and not give them any more of their hard earned money.





Hope springs eternal. :yep:

Praying is for the common people. Televangelists want the cash up front.

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This guy is apart of the blight on modern Christianity called the prosperity gospel, also known as the health and wealth gospel, or the gospel of success. It's basically a pyramid scheme with the preachers at the top. It prays on the gullible and the desperate. It's a scam. Of course they can claim it works because they are at the top. Scumbags.

We are not going to get anywhere Marcel if you keep hiding your feelings.


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I'll try to do better. :O:

I would suggest you send this excellent comment to that RAT and ask for his opinion if he is not to busy dreaming up another scam.

I use to be Pentecostal (belief in the days of Pentecost as written in the Book of Acts) ... then about ten (10) years ago I ran into a phony preacher named Todd Bentley at a (suppose to be) healing revival in Florida.

I would stay up late and watch him live on TV on what was then the God TV channel (now gone due to divorce and lies in the family) then one day in July 2008 ABC TV asked him to prove that he was healing people. They couldn't find and he couldn't produce even three (3) people that could verify any healing had taken place.

I went click and snapped out of it ... changed church to a small community church and i've been resisting these false prophets ever since.

If Satan couldn't deceive you he wouldn't try :yep:

Serious, no missionizing meant by me, this just has proven to be so very useful. I knew the author for some time, until he chased me away :) and said I should do my own thing. The result then was that I ran a changing group teaching daily meditation, every morning, for over ten years. Many of them were dissapointed former church-Christians: Protestants and Catholics alike, also "apostates" from ritualised Buddhist formats.

https://www.amazon.com/Free-Yourself...=wolfgang+kopp

https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Beyond-Al...=wolfgang+kopp


Take note of the customer feedbacks - they are true, imo at least.


The first was meant and written as a book, and has a structure that reflects that. The second is a collection of some talks he held and that were collected by his disciples. I think you would like it, since it is "culture-free" and focusses not on what separates traditions, but focusses on what they have in common. They are essentially all what is left of my former "spiritual library", almost all other books have been traded, given away, got lost and never felt missed. Just a handful of books survived my book burning. :D Count them by the fingers of two hands.

Its also a kind of drastic read that leaves little room for evasion and foul excuses.

Just an invitation. If you feel like it, ignore it and forget it. I have recommended these books many times over the past 25 years or so. I think it is hard to find any better on Zen - and Christian mysticism. They costed me most of my Buddhist friends during university times, and were not red to the end by most. Imposters are nothing that is limited to the Christian tradition - Buddhism suffers from this plague as well. And most believers hate you if you rip the masks off their idol - Christians and Buddhists alike. Most people do not want truth. They want reassuring of that what they have chosen to believe in brings them the reward they demand. They are barterers, and tourists seeking exotic mind adventures.

Nothing holy in rites and rituals, nothing like holy men and adorable scriptures; no divinity that could be thought out and expressed. All what is needed - everybody has it within himself already, if only he would know. Nothing to be gained, nothing to be lost. You cannot get enlighted, you cannot make enlightenment, you cannot gain and win enlightenment. Nothing more to say there, so why all the lots of talking, doing, wondering?

There is just one truth, the term implies there cannot be different truths - where that appears to be the case, all but one must be wrong, truth knows no plural. Whether one names it Christian mysticism, Ch'an or Zen - how could that matter?

The followers of this priest have probably been subjected to subliminal meanings, thus under the limit of consciousness, and have become mentally exploited.