Many experts also point out - at least here in Germany - that the scandal also lies in letting these cars already drive now, with current technology and software and under current regulations - while their technology simply still is not as advanced as it is claimed to be. Practically every such expert in the media over here pointed out that these cars still are years away from even considering to let them drive in the wild. That it is already being done, is seen as irresponsible by a majority, it seems.

PRECISLY: I MENTION THAT I WAS THE INSURANCE DRIVER FOR THE INTERSTATE TRUCK COMPANY; GETTING TOWED OUT A THOUSAND MILES WITH A FREIGHLINER-TRACTOR TO SALVAGE THE COMPANY'S CARGOS AND/OR TRAILERS WHEN NECESSARY AND MAKE FINAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR BERIEVED FAMILIES.... FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE HERE!!! THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH ON THIS PLANET IS GENERALLY.... OTHER PEOPLE:yep:... USUALLY WIVES AND DOCTORS-SOMETIMES IN COLLUSION:haha:, WARLORDS, SCIENTISTS AND BAD PROFIT-MOTIVATED ENGINEERS (NEW BRIDGE COLLAPSES ETChttps://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...-super-169.jpg)??!! AT 67, I'M NOT AS QUICK ANYMORE, AND AS STATED: JUST DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF ANYONE'S COMMERCIAL EXPERIMENTS; THE MORE SO AS I STILL DRIVE 2-300 MILES A WEEK AT NIGHT....:oops: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/us/bridge-collapse-florida/index.html

Every one is looking for a reason to blame the Autonomous vehicle for this accident, Has anyone asked why this lady stepped into the street like she did? It was dark, so did she not see the headlights of the car or did she just step out without looking?

I wonder if these cars have the ability to swerve.:hmmm:

Good point mike. I don't want to derail this thread. However, here is something else to consider with these sensors on autonomous vehicles. I ride motorcycles, mostly through rural areas. My biggest concern is wild life jumping out and my motorcycle hitting them. I travel through cities on occasion and frequently encounter traffic lights. If I'm the first in line, my motorcycle usually fails to trigger the sensors to activate the lights. As a result, I have sat through 2 cycles of light with angry traffic behind me. Fortunately, The legislature in a number of states have enacted laws that effectively say that under those conditions and circumstances, I can " legally " assume the traffic lights are " defective " and go through the light after having sat through a cycle. The mere fact that the legislature have enacted these laws means that they know about the problem but won't force whoever manufactures and maintains the traffic signals ( Dept. Of Transportation ) to upgrade them in any way.

While this new law helps in a way, If I am moving against a red light, someone else has a green light and I am taking my life in my hands by going through the red light. For that reason, I leave a large cushion at lights if I am first in line and encourage car ( s ) behind me to pass me and take the lead position at the light so that the cars mass can trigger the light. By the way, my motorcycle is relatively large and tips the scales at roughly close to 800 lbs with me on it.

The point is, if these autonomous cars are using sensors of a similar design and I don't know that they are, they won't be sensitive enough to detect pedestrians if they can't detect a 600 pound motorcycle without the rider.

It may well come down to a cruel and simple fact: It's cheaper and more cost effective to settle a few law suits than to fix the initial problem for these manufactures. We have seen that with defective auto components like tires and seat belts and more recently, air bags manufactured by Takata. Takata Gambled badly on that one and as a result of the scandal resulting from their defective airbags and the deaths associated with their air bags, they have filed for bankruptcy. If these autonomous cars are going to be on the road, then it should at the very least be mandated that they have the auto braking system and a sensor suite sensitive enough to detect pedestrians, especially children who don't weigh much at all. We have all seen a ball roll out into the street with a child fast behind, chasing it. With the code and software for these systems being written, these contingencies have to be factored in.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/25/news...tcy/index.html

SOMEBODY AT wsj READS MY POSTS....
 

YES...WELL SORTA https://www.forbes.com/sites/patricklin/2017/04/05/heres-how-tesla-solves-a-self-driving-crash-dilemma/#774261436813

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Tesla did not do what no manufacturer has ever done—“develop and implement computer algorithms that would eliminate the danger of full throttle acceleration into fixed objects” even if it is caused by human error…Tesla disputes that there is a legal duty to design a failsafe car.:k_confused:

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Originally Posted by WSJ The test operator in the Uber Technologies Inc. self-driving car that killed an Arizona woman was a felon with a history of traffic citations who wasn’t watching the road before the accident happened, facts that raise new questions about the company’s testing process for autonomous technology. In November, Colorado officials fined Uber $8.9 million after discovering it had allowed several dozen drivers onto its service who had prior felony convictions, a violation of state rules for ride-hailing firms. Uber attributed the hirings to a “process error.” It has resisted allowing fingerprinting in most markets, saying the process can be lengthy and produce misleading results. Drivers of autonomous vehicles, called test operators or safety drivers, are trained to monitor the road and to take the wheel or hit the brake when the vehicles, which are still in test mode, act erratically. Uber gives test operators three weeks of training before they go out on the road. The accident also revives debate about whether humans and robots can coexist when operating a car together. Experts question whether a human can handle when the car’s brain hands over control in a complex driving situation, especially when there is little time to react. “This event only highlights the handover problem,” Missy Cummings, a professor of mechanical engineering and material science at Duke University, said in an email. “If trained ‘safety’ drivers can not make themselves pay attention, how will the rest of us fare?” Her research has found people have difficulty remaining vigilant when monitoring automation for long periods. Her group studied 27 subjects during four hours of simulated driving and found vigilance decreased in about 21 minutes on average. Executives had put test vehicles into the hands of employees and instructed them to monitor the roadway. The employees were video recorded. The videos showed employees quickly became comfortable with the self-driving technology and their attention wandered. Videos show one employee sleeping; another applied makeup. Uber said it has a total of some 400 drivers in Tempe, Toronto, San Francisco and Pittsburgh, where it is testing self-driving cars. It has pulled the vehicles from public roads in Toronto, Tempe, San Francisco and Pittsburgh while the crash investigation continues. Industry players say the testing of self-driving cars on U.S. roads is bound to continue. “Nobody knows any other option,”....:oops: :ping:

BOTTOM LINE: these cars are not ready for (Skybirds 'wild') public roadways and no one should be killed for a corporate (Uber, Tesla etc) profit motive. Ms Herzberg's estate is owed Uber's profit$ for the year....imho