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Aktungbby 10-12-17 03:59 AM

Still in Uber bugout mode with three cars loaded with weird short-notice 'essentials'... Deeds, a sewing machine, wedding photos etc. Daughter had to go take original documents from her small museum as entire town of Calistoga to the north is is evacuated. 5000 people on the road to somewhere! I'm monitoring local channels for any sudden down turn in calm winds or movement of active fires just two miles to the west. This one is as bad as the Cobb Mtn/Middletown disaster of 2015-twenty miles north; Currently: over twenty dead and thousands of homes destroyed. As for the smoke: The worst hour was measured at Napa College on Tuesday at 8 a.m., breaking all records in the area. The air quality index of 486 for small particulate matter is so high it’s off the chart, Worst level =201-300 https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/10/11/bay-area-air-quality-worst-on-record-check-out-your-city/ An official 'spare the air' day is in effect through the weekend...jeeze! no barbequing! Correct 'particulate' breathing masks are in short supply at hardware stores. We do have a 19,000 gallon 747 Global supertanker helping for the firstime- really something impressive; video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3AWMGQ5ot0

Mr Quatro 10-12-17 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2518169)
Still in Uber bugout mode with three cars loaded with weird short-notice 'essentials'...

10-12-2017, 03:59 AM ?????

you really are staying up all night ... get some sleep man.

Praying that you don't feel the heat ... good grieve hurricanes, fires, Trump, Rocket Man don't we have enough to worry about?

vienna 10-12-17 05:44 AM

Aktungbby is like rust: he never sleeps... :D






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Catfish 10-12-17 07:07 AM

Hey, he is not that corrosive!

vienna 10-12-17 07:49 AM

:haha:





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Aktungbby 10-12-17 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2518175)
10-12-2017, 03:59 AM ?????

you really are staying up all night ... get some sleep man.

Praying that you don't feel the heat ... good grieve hurricanes, fires, Trump, Rocket Man don't we have enough to worry about?

I'm reminiscing the flash flood earlier this year in Feb that almost got me and now this. My wife and I are doing it in shifts; she's at the coffee table on laptop and the TV with the county gov channel with evac and fire activity updates. The N. Korean leader need not threaten to turn us to ash; we're doing a fine job on our own.:doh: After two quakes and now this, one agitated neighborhood housewife is referring to this as 'the slow apocalypse'!

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2518178)
Aktungbby is like rust: he never sleeps... :D
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Indeed! I am a night owl: probably the security work and long-haul trucker job influence. In these circumstances, it helps.

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2518193)
Hey, he is not that corrosive!

....He said acidly....:O: At any rate, the fire activity due west of me approx. 8,000 ft. to the west, northwest, and now, southwest, has shifted almost due south during the last five hours. This particular fire is the Partrick Fire portion of the general conflagration now dubbed the LNU fire.http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...pslgenmo5u.png Northerly winds and cool temps are in our favor...for the moment; the 30 mph winds did not occur as predicted; so for now: good.:up: Smoke is still predominant and staying indoors is advised. If the winds shift back to normal westerly breezes and increase to 20-30 mph, the game can change drastically.http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/wind-predictions-bring-napa-county-wildfire-uncertainties/article_3f8af9e0-4062-5c65-b307-0fd3353b9a91.html

Reece 10-12-17 06:05 PM

Take care Aktungbby.

Aktungbby 10-13-17 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2518265)
Take care Aktungbby.

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#PartrickFire [update] west of Napa (Napa County) is now 12,379 acres and 18% contained.
slightly up from yesterday's 2% contained...winds from the NW expected to increase this evening. Saturday is expected to be difficult. Air quality is miserable; the color purple has just been introduced for worst condition 300-400 particulate level: ie Napa at 296 (was at 486!!!) https://www.airnow.gov/images/aqi_vunh_text.gif...what with the smoke haze 200 yard visibility :O: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwWjx7Cw8I Meets my morning paper morale boosting headline::yeah: http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...psw7k0s5vt.jpg:k_confused:

Aktungbby 10-13-17 01:42 PM

The true nature of a two-front 'LNU complex' war....
 
From the real-time situation map as I post: sitting with tv, radio, and computer... awaiting an evac order from the familyroom 'bunker': http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...psozyt6obo.pnghttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/multimedia/7516058-181/pd-default-story-headline-xy

Catfish 10-13-17 01:49 PM

Oh no, now it again looks like evacuating?! :o

Do you have breathing masks? Stay safe, and despite house and all: better leave in time!

Aktungbby 10-13-17 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2518399)
Oh no, now it again looks like evacuating?! :o

Do you have breathing masks? Stay safe, and despite house and all: better leave in time!

Yup we got masks; but remaining indoors is the recommended thing so I'm in no 'particulate' rushhttp://www.emofaces.com/png/15/emoticons/gasmask.png at this point; the neighbor fire chief spent the night at home and went back to work this AM. which alleviates much decision making tension. He's the communications/media PR spokesman, so I figure ...HE KNOWS ALL! If he leaves, we leave; simple as that! As before: Saturday's expected winds, both velocity and direction, will be very decisive. This mess is expected to go on for the balance of the month....At least I now have (above) a real-time fire-map to properly monitor the fire's movement-red stuff is flames.

Aktungbby 10-15-17 01:52 PM

The air war
 
All 10 western states' aerial resources are involved in the Napa/Sonoma fires at this point including the 747 Global supertanker. A spotter aircraft with a experienced smoke jumper to gauge the wind and other imponderables flys into the target and leaves a smoke puff; when the 747 nose hits the puff the 19,000 gallons is released on target....well not always: there have been a few misses that have doused the ground fire crews.:timeout: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._in_Israel.jpgSo far in both counties home losses are approaching 5000 and 40 are confirmed dead. The elderly are most vulnerable: the median age of victims is 79. Winds are the key: they are out of the East so air quality is good; but what is good for Napa is bad for Sonoma to the west. Our place is still within 8000 feet of the Redwood RD./Partrick fire line with occasional hotspots so we're still in bug-out mode as yet and can smell the smoke. The situation as of 07:30: http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...psnc6cdur0.png
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11:50; Effective immediately the Evacuation Advisory in place within Napa city limits is lifted. Residents are reminded to exercise caution while emergency vehicles continue to operate within the area.
(subject to sudden wind changes of course):oops: :wah: :timeout:

Buddahaid 10-15-17 02:30 PM

The wind definitely shifted in San Rafael yesterday and started blowing northward clearing the smoke quite a bit, but the air quality is still bad for toxin levels.

I worked in Santa Rosa at Memorial Hospital Friday and it wasn't any smokier than home forty miles south. Driving up in the predawn dark you can't tell anything is happening oddly enough. No fire glow anywhere but kind of a "Twilight Zone" feel all through the day. Many doctors and hospital administration types, as well as all other workers have lost their homes. The Kaiser hospital is supposed to reopen Monday but Sutter will still remain closed due to smoke.

I've lived in this area all my life and it will be very depressing having to drive through areas forever changed of decades old landmarks.

Thanks for all the help from all over.

Aktungbby 10-15-17 03:36 PM

Just drove Dry Creek and Orchard (roadblock still there); heavy smoke is only directly North at the Yountville breakthrough along Oakville Grade with all smoke along the Mt Veeder Ridge dissipated completely. The chief just pulled in and says the worst has gone by; all of city-limit Napa evacuations are lifted. I'm now out to Geyserville up toward Lake Sonoma to assist my 80 year old family friend to move back into her rural 5 acres/mobile home with all of her cats and birds. The trip way'round through Novato to 101 should be interesting as hwy 128 through Calistoga(North) and hwy 121 past Sonoma(South) is sealed off.
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Originally Posted by BuddaBBY
Thanks for all the help from all over.

No kidding! just spotted a pumper unit at South Napa market 20 minutes ago; from Cornelius....I had never heard of Cornelius.... duh: its from Cornelius, North Carolina -3000+ miles away!:Kaleun_Salute: Australian and Canadian crews are here as well alongside neighboring state's crews. This is serious all-out fire fighting!

Catfish 10-16-17 03:53 AM

Glad to hear you two are safe!
So you are now out of danger?

Aktungbby 10-16-17 10:41 AM

Fire wise probably:hmmm:; now we'll await the mudslides from the bare-burned steep hillsides when the winter rains hit. Rain is expected around Thursday which will help with the hotspots still burning to the north on both sides of Napa and in Sonoma. The smoke is still discernible so the house stays buttoned up today. The fire hazard is a constant of this area as with my traffic stop two years ago, the primary concern is always to prevent a fire; it is everyman's concern:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2412132&postcount=788 The current rumor investigation is that high winds caused old PG&E power lines to spark.
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The fires currently burning in Northern California, particularly in Sonoma, Napa, and Yuba Counties, spanned more than 265 square miles as of the morning of October 12, 2017. Weather conditions Thursday could reverse some containment efforts, as the forecast calls for winds gusting up to 45 mph. Emergency workers have reported multiple instances of power lines falling down and electrical transformers exploding, leading some to suggest utility giant PG&E may have caused or contributed to the fires now scorching Northern California through poor equipment maintenance and noncompliance with state fire risk regulations.
But a dragging trailer hitch chain, vehicle backfire, or glass bottle in sunlight can cause it: 40 dead; 200 missing; and 5000+ homes destroyed. Most people in the suburban mountain interface understand the danger of beautiful remote locations; this monster broke the rules: tearing through an entire subdivision in minutes in downtown Santa Rosa. Currently the fire in my area is 50% contained; 11,000 firefighters are on 12 fires. The winds are currently very lenient and the temperatures are cool- all in our favor. Fire officials report the worst is past....EDIT: the news report on TV just now is that a fire tanker truck overturned on the steep Oakville Grade just north of me; killing the driver;http://www.pressdemocrat.com/csp/med...YPE=image/jpeg I hope it was not the gentleman I spoke to yesterday while he filled his equipment from a Dry Creek Rd. fire-hydrant near my home. Crews have been pulling 24 hour shifts but are expected to rotate properly now that sufficient manpower resources are at hand. Fire water tanker-tenders are a particular hazard: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pdfs/hid14.pdf

Aktungbby 10-16-17 01:55 PM

Much improved!
 
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1508093423 :yeah: Fires to the north currently. A slight flare up directly to the NW of me. Calistoga residents are permitted back into their town. Map is in real-time; http://www.pressdemocrat.com/multimedia/7516058-181/pd-default-story-headline-xy Brown is cool; yellow is mellow;...red is hot! NOTE: single red squares along the Sacramento River (south of Napa) tend to be oil refinery flares as this is an infra-red based map.

Aktungbby 10-16-17 11:00 PM

much better!
 
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...x.png~original

Aktungbby 10-19-17 12:59 PM

a little post-fuego perspective
 
Currently no active red hotspots on any real-time maps including the Oakville Grade blaze that persisted till yesterday to the north and cost one tanker driver's life. Now we await the runoff/pollution into the water reservoirs from scorched earth watersheds this winter. Hydro-seeding forest hillsides may be required as there are still damages from the Cobb Mountain/Middletown disaster of 2015 just a little further north. The air quality is improved but iffy: WOW the worst air quality rating in the Bay area this past week is a 'typical day' in Beijing, China!!!:k_confused: Having packed up two cars, ready to bug-out myself for four days(currently unpacking) including all house-cat supplies, passport and pictures- a little sympathetic weirdness as what seems important is subject to extreme tunnel vision with 10+ minutes warning!:timeout:: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/lifestyle/7539146-181/sonoma-county-residents-shared-the?ref=most&artslide=0
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My dirty laundry! Figured it was everything I'd worn in the last week, so at least I'd have some clothes I knew fit!

Mr Quatro 10-21-17 03:03 PM

The new class of homeless people in the California wild fire district ... this is sad for many have no where left to go and the shelters are now down to just three from 30.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...gLq?li=BBnbcA1

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"Everyone has to start over," she said.

She and her family were displaced by one of the massive Northern California fires last week.

The fire didn't discriminate. The most destructive fire in California history torched Santa Rosa's high-end homes, middle-class neighborhoods and a mobile home park. It left the entire spectrum of the city's population in distress as homes and businesses went up in flames.


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