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August 03-16-17 02:20 PM

Well you guys follow your own consciences, but I'm a carnivore that is completely guilt free dispatching lobsters the old way.

Re Maßachusetts: We don't do umlauts or other weird German letters but we do however (usually) answer to the name "Mass hole". :)

Aktungbby 03-16-17 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2473141)
Re Maßachusetts: We don't do umlauts or other weird German letters but we do however (usually) answer to the name "Mass hole". :)

NO NO! In this case the inlaws really R from Athol MAß!:har: the home of Starrett Tools no less! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...C_Athol_MA.jpg

Platapus 03-16-17 05:10 PM

I am convinced, through unscientific methods, that dogs understand more of our language then they have the ability to respond to. I am also convinced that dogs communicate much more non-verbally then we have the ability to respond to.

I am grateful that my dogs are more patient with my inability to understand them then I am with their not understanding me.

August 03-16-17 05:49 PM

I think it's their ability to smell emotions.

Castout 03-16-17 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2473099)
Yeah I did. It involves freezing them to death or at least making them hypothermic enough that they loose consciousness. A process that can take almost a half an hour assuming that you have sufficient ice/refrigeration available for the deed.

Two problems with that.

First, how do we know that this slow and lingering death is any less painful/upsetting to the bug than a relatively quick dispatch in the cooking pot?

Second how would that work at restaurants where you pick out the lobster you're going to eat from the holding tank? Do you think anyone is going to be ok with waiting an extra half hour to slowly kill the thing before the cooking even gets started?



I understand the theory but i'm sorry I just find the whole idea ridiculous.

Lobsters are a source of food for me, no more no less. You think a fish cares about the lobsters pain when it begins to eat them? Does the lion care about the gazelle feelings or the wolf care about the lamb? No they will merrily rip their prey apart while it is still bleating and struggling. So please don't tell me that we are all one when no other creature in nature is expected to be so considerate to their dinner.

Just severing their nervous system(s) should be enough. A little pain is still much better than prolonged pain of being boiled alive or dismembered.

For lobsters it's the head, for crabs, there are two points which should be struck. They die quickly. Ideally before striking they should be iced but even when not it's still better than boiling them alive or dismembering them without touching the nervous system(s).

This should be done because
1. They are sentient despite our common ignorance
2. Non-duality is the only reality. Thus, we ought to avoid inflicting nightmare to others even animals.

Mike Abberton 03-17-17 08:39 AM

Based on 30+ years as a dog owner, I think dogs definitely understand a lot of our "language" including words, tone, body posture, etc.

I am convinced my cats understand every word I say exactly, they just don't give a $#!^.

Mike

Fubar2Niner 03-17-17 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen (Post 2472655)

Don't that kinda remind you of that creature in Ice Age ??

Am I late in noticing this?

Aktungbby 03-17-17 03:53 PM

[QUOTE ]Am I late in noticing this? [/QUOTE] At our age...'late' is a word to B avoided!:03:

Fubar2Niner 03-17-17 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2473367)
[QUOTE ]Am I late in noticing this?

At our age...'late' is a word to B avoided!:03:[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

At our age I'm too slow to avoid anything mate ;) I can't even quote stuff correctly :D


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