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fireftr18 04-28-16 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2400676)
Mom used to say, "don't run with scissors", she didn't give us rubber scissors.

A species that cannot keep itself from injury or death is a species on the way out.:know:

So then we shouldn't protect stupid people and strengthen the gene pool. :Kaleun_Goofy:

Jimbuna 04-29-16 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2400657)
Damn smartass kids! Always trying to tell us what to do... http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/an...y-emoticon.gif

You!! Get off my lawn!! And, no!, you can't have your ball back!...



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MaDef 04-29-16 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fireftr18 (Post 2400708)
So then we shouldn't protect stupid people and strengthen the gene pool. :Kaleun_Goofy:

Pretty much, There seems to be a lot of people out there that are nothing more than a waste of oxygen.

Skybird 04-29-16 07:34 AM

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Platapus 04-29-16 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2400676)
Mom used to say, "don't run with scissors", she didn't give us rubber scissors.

A species that cannot keep itself from injury or death is a species on the way out.:know:

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Originally Posted by fireftr18 (Post 2400708)
So then we shouldn't protect stupid people and strengthen the gene pool. :Kaleun_Goofy:

When I was going for my Intermediate EMT certification, I was assigned to this one paramedic working the inner city squad. He had been on the streets way too long and was burned out. He treated me (and everyone else) like crap, but honestly I learned more about the street from him than anyone else.

But I remember the first time we rode together. He told me that EMS was working contrary to nature. In order for our species to survive, the stupid ones need to die and in EMS most of the time we are saving stupid people.

:o

Hmm not exactly what they taught me in the class room.

But damn, he was a good paramedic. :salute:

Jimbuna 04-29-16 09:05 AM

^
Similarly in the LEO business here in the UK.

When explaining to new colleagues how it was often the stupid people we would remove from the streets the response would occasionally be "But surely it is the criminals we remove?"

His response was always....."Nope, they're stupid, otherwise we wouldn't be catching them."

Dowly 04-29-16 09:34 AM

I applaud the Germans.

While these people might seems idiots (and to some extend, they are), they might still be mothers/fathers/daughters/sons/etc.

If this is what it takes to protect them, so be it.

And as HunterICX pointed out, there is the damage done to the one who runs them over.

I hate this smartphone culture, but it should not be punishable by being run over.

I hope this helps.

August 04-29-16 09:57 AM

Eh it's all temporary. As soon as they come out with a direct connection to the brain you won't be able to tell who is distracted and who isn't. Think of it as a hands free mode for the visual part of a smart phone.

em2nought 04-29-16 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2400788)

Oh, that would make a good movie. Like the Halloween one where kids sit down in front of the tv in their halloween mask, and it turns their brains to snakes and bugs. "The Zombie App" :up:

u crank 04-29-16 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2400827)
I applaud the Germans.

While these people might seems idiots (and to some extend, they are), they might still be mothers/fathers/daughters/sons/etc.

If this is what it takes to protect them, so be it.

I think that the principle behind this thinking is somewhat admirable but there is a catch. The more you protect people from themselves, the more dependent they will become on that protection. Where will this lead?

Schroeder 04-29-16 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2400916)
Where will this lead?

To speed limits of 70km/h on country roads with trees at the road side...
We just got that here at some of my favorite motorcycling roads.:wah:
There was the normal limit of 100km/h there until recently and I really fail to see how anyone could crash his vehicle into the trees by accident at that speed but obviously some did and since 90 or 80 km/h is still waaaayyyy toooooo much to handle for the average driver we had to go all the way down to 70...on a wide road with mild curves where there was nor danger to driving at 100km/h unless one was a complete retard who doesn't know what the steering wheel or handle bars are good for....:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

Rockstar 04-29-16 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2400916)
I think that the principle behind this thinking is somewhat admirable but there is a catch. The more you protect people from themselves, the more dependent they will become on that protection. Where will this lead?

More lawsuits

u crank 04-29-16 07:22 PM

As it is written " lawyers shall inherit the earth". :smug:

fireftr18 05-01-16 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2400817)
^
Similarly in the LEO business here in the UK.

When explaining to new colleagues how it was often the stupid people we would remove from the streets the response would occasionally be "But surely it is the criminals we remove?"

His response was always....."Nope, they're stupid, otherwise we wouldn't be catching them."

Yep! I've seen more people go to jail for the sheer reason of being stupid than anything else. Yes, they broke a law. The LEO just simply wanted to tell them to not do it again, or just go home. But Mr. Stupid had to get an attitude and argue, or be a jerk about it.

HunterICX 05-03-16 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2400827)
I hate this smartphone culture, but it should not be punishable by being run over.

Yes they should.
Not because I hate the smartphone culture but because the cause of the problem is the use of the phone which makes you completely ignore your surroundings not the lack of safety measures that have been installed at crossings.

Wolferz 05-04-16 09:52 AM

There is an app for that...
 
Set the traffic lights up to broadcast a signal to the cell phones to flash the screen for a red light, don't walk sign etc.

Ultimately, I'd just call it cleaning the gene pool when your Angry Birds becomes more important than your life and limbs.:doh:

Safety course...

THE CORRECT SPEED FOR USING A PHONE IS ZERO MPH /KPH
Remember, it won't kill you to pull over to answer that call or text!

Catfish 05-04-16 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2402038)
Set the traffic lights up to broadcast a signal to the cell phones to flash the screen for a red light, don't walk sign etc. ...

:up: Yes, write an app that makes the cell phone screen flash red, and yell "STOP YOU MORON!" at you.

Also, add a small arrow to tell you where to go, to avoid obstacles in real life while looking at the screen all the time.
God there are thousand ideas Google and Appple will make money with :haha:

In the future, the phone will take a blood sample of you before or short after a fatal crash, so they can clone you, and replace your memories with Google Brain (tm)

Almost sounds a bit Philip K. Dickish

Oberon 05-04-16 11:24 AM

I think if it will lead to anything it will just be the extension of pavement barriers so that people can only cross the road in set regulated areas, and these areas will have barriers to prevent people from walking out into the road accidentally when the traffic is flowing. Not particularly a bad thing really, since it will also stop young children from bolting out in front of cars too. Won't stop idiots from climbing the fence though. :nope:

August 05-04-16 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2402055)
I think if it will lead to anything it will just be the extension of pavement barriers so that people can only cross the road in set regulated areas, and these areas will have barriers to prevent people from walking out into the road accidentally when the traffic is flowing. Not particularly a bad thing really, since it will also stop young children from bolting out in front of cars too. Won't stop idiots from climbing the fence though. :nope:

What do you mean by pavement barriers? You mean like a fence or railing along the side of the road only broken at road crossings?

Oberon 05-04-16 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2402072)
What do you mean by pavement barriers? You mean like a fence or railing along the side of the road only broken at road crossings?

That's the one. :yep: You can still vault them if you're feeling athletic, but would discourage small children and accidental walking into traffic. I've seen a lot of them in London, I must admit they do irritate me sometimes since if you want to cross the street at a certain point then you have to go to the nearest crossing, but that's just laziness on my behalf. :03:
Then at the crossings they'd put gates up like they have at railway crossings, so if someone does vault the gate and then gets mowed down by a car, then it's clearly not the car drivers fault.
It's a lot of work for infrastructure though, so not really plausible except for perhaps blackspots. :hmmm:


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