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Nippelspanner 09-02-15 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 2341402)
Because in Germany from what I've heard but could be wrong if you have genuine concerns and critisism about the whole Asylum issue right now politicians have no problem in throwing you into the same basket as the Neo-Nazis or as Dowly put it down more appropiate.

Yes, this is absolutely the case here and is a huge problem, as "political correctness" always is.

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2341406)
Maybe those refugees should grow a pair and do something about what's going on in their home countries, instead of running away like lazy cowards and looking for a handout elsewhere.

I don't even know what to say

Tchocky 09-02-15 11:46 AM

Pledging €20 to get Oberon a soapbox+loudhailer, who's with me?

Herr-Berbunch 09-02-15 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341431)
The EU needs to get its collective heads out of its arses and actually get a proper program in place for resettlement and relocation of these people.


I'd recommend a disputed strip of land they could call home. What could possibly go wrong.

STEED 09-02-15 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341436)
I did contemplate taking a trip to Speakers Corner when I head down to London next... :hmmm:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...59_306x462.jpg

Do it in style, in the buff. :)

vienna 09-02-15 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2341330)
Yes, and Obama finished it by pulling out while the country was still an unstable steaming pile of cow dung. I don't know who was more stupid.:/\\!!
What did they expect would happen in a power vacuum in the middle east?

Interesting take, given it was Bush who set the pullout date and timetable during his negotiations with the Iraqi puppet government his administration set up. It is also interesting the final pullout date was 'coincidentally' set after the end of his terms, rather than during his Presidency. I guess he and his cronies knew they had severely, and for the American servicepersons killed and maimed for really no purpose, tragically botched the whole situation and also saw the inevitable chaos that would come after US forces were withdrawn and chose to let whoever followed Bush to take the hit and thereby not damage Bush's sterling "legacy"...

Whoever followed Bush was left with a no-win situation: if they pulled out, the outcry would match what we have now and what is characterized in the quote above; if they had stayed or increased US presence in Iraq in contradiction to the Bush-negotiated agreement, the cry would be of war-mongering, duplicity, 'imperial Presidency', etc. It didn't matter if it was Romney or Obama: Bush crapped all over US foreign policy, as he did US economic policy, and left the steaming piles for his successor(s)...


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STEED 09-02-15 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341455)
I'm trying to attract people to the cause, not scare them off! :O:

Your only scare off any police surveillance...Arrreeeeee my eyes, why did I use the zoom. :03: :haha:

Wolferz 09-02-15 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2341456)
Interesting take, given it was Bush who set the pullout date and timetable during his negotiations with the Iraqi puppet government his administration set up. It is also interesting the final pullout date was 'coincidentally' set after the end of his terms, rather than during his Presidency. I guess he and his cronies knew they had severely, and for the American servicepersons killed and maimed for really no purpose, tragically botched the whole situation and also saw the inevitable chaos that would come after US forces were withdrawn and chose to let whoever followed Bush to take the hit and thereby not damage Bush's sterling "legacy"...

Whoever followed Bush was left with a no-win situation: if they pulled out, the outcry would match what we have now and what is characterized in the quote above; if they had stayed or increased US presence in Iraq in contradiction to the Bush-negotiated agreement, the cry would be of war-mongering, duplicity, 'imperial Presidency', etc. It didn't matter if it was Romney or Obama: Bush crapped all over US foreign policy, as he did US economic policy, and left the steaming piles for his successor(s)...


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Bush is working on his autobiography....

HOW I SCREWED EVERYBODY WITH MY BIG DICK CHENEY

He'd be done by now if the crayons would stop breaking.:-?

Rockstar 09-02-15 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2341435)
Pledging €20 to get Oberon a soapbox+loudhailer, who's with me?


umm, no.

Betonov 09-02-15 02:20 PM

In that case, I pledge Oberon my largest potato box

Mr Quatro 09-02-15 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2341374)
"I am proud to be Asian" - said the Asian
"I am proud to be African" - said the African
"I am proud to be Jewish - said the Jew
"I am proud to be an Arab" - said the Arab

"I am proud to be European" - said the evil, racist, homophobe, white, intolerant, right-wing, hateful antisemitic supremacist Nazi oppressor

Jeremiah 9:23-24 
This is what the Lord says:
"The wise must not brag about their wisdom.
The strong must not brag about their strength.
The rich must not brag about their money.
 

But if people want to brag, let them brag
that they understand and know me.
Let them brag that I am the Lord,
and that I am kind and fair,
and that I do things that are right on earth.
This kind of bragging pleases me,"


Betonov 09-02-15 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341476)


Has it be de-potatoed first? Don't want to give the crowd any weaponry.... :hmmm:

I'll stuff it with common sense to scare UKIP away

Schroeder 09-02-15 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2341456)
Interesting take, given it was Bush who set the pullout date and timetable during his negotiations with the Iraqi puppet government his administration set up.

I stand corrected then.

Onkel Neal 09-02-15 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2341406)
Maybe those refugees should grow a pair and do something about what's going on in their home countries, instead of running away like lazy cowards and looking for a handout elsewhere.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

I really wish the First World countries could band together and go into these regions, roust out the bad dictators, and help the population rebuild their infrastructure, sort out their issues...oh wait, we tried that and it blew up in our face. Bush, check.:dead:

vienna 09-02-15 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2341498)
I stand corrected then.

Not intended as a correction, just a clarification. A lot of people are under the misconception the current problems in Iraq are due to the Obama administration. Obama could have handled it better, but the seeds were sown by his predecessor. The very vocal and very bellicose criticism of Obama's actions by people such as Limbaugh, Hannity, and the large hollow bell-heads at Fox News and others has served as a deflection from the basic underlying facts. Believe me, an awful lot of otherwise reasonable Americans have very little knowledge of the basis for the situation in Iraq and its fallout (ISIS, etc.). I can only imagine what is being reported by overseas news services...


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Rockstar 09-02-15 07:15 PM

meh, seen it more often than I care to remember. immigrants/refugees going to great lengths and taking even greater risks to reach what they perceive as safety and freedom. so many lose so much.

Torplexed 09-02-15 08:00 PM

Wow. A picture like that is worth a thousand tragic narratives. :o

Rockstar 09-02-15 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341533)
Seriously?

"meh", as in Im not shocked by the photo of the dead washed up on the beach. seen it too many times before, seriously.

Bubblehead1980 09-02-15 10:05 PM

Sad but hope Europe does not give in to PC and emotional guilt trips, they all need to be sent back. I grew angry seeing some of the "refugees" rant and rave as if has a RIGHT to just enter other countries , the sense of entitlement. Reminds me in some ways of those who feel entitled to enter the US without permission. Sad, hope Europe has a learned its lesson with unfettered mideast immigration and sends them all packing.

Bubblehead1980 09-02-15 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2341556)

About what I would expect after you're emotional guilt filled post. Just read the US will take in 8000 Syrians next year. inThe right is on the rise in Europe and herhere, this madness will endend eventually.

Betonov 09-03-15 01:45 AM

Solidarity !!!!
Do you have it ???


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