Well, at least it does look like a really old boat - definitely not a post-war model. Som I think is a good guess. Papers will sell good tomorrow. Too bad it wasn't something more recent design.


-RC-

Former member of the Submarine Analysis Group says he is convinced it is Russian sub Catfish that sunk in 1916.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/expe...et-ar-catfish/

He says that its position has been known by the Swedish Armed Forces for a while but that knowledge is not official.

If the Ocean X guys cleaned it up before going public... These are thesame guys that found the underwater "UFo" a while back. They know PR.

Sure looks like a pre WWII boat to me. Looks a bit like an old R-boat I know that the Imperial Russian Navy did buy boats from both Holland and Lake and I'm pretty sure they had something similar to the R-boat.

I think it is an old submarine as well, based on the video I saw of its sail area, and the sonar.

As for its condition it is not all that unusual, from the sonar images it looks like the sub is resting in an underwater desert area, so you would not expect to see any growth, just a coating of sediment.

The Baltic Ocean is also famous for how well it preserves wrecks and artifacts. For example, the Russian monitor Rusalka, which sank in 1893.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaVKDQxdukY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_monitor_Rusalka

The Baltic Sea probably has a lower salt content as well which helps preserve a ship especially a metal one. The Black Sea is the really interesting one below a certain depth the salt content is low in addition the oxygen level iis very low making it the ideal preserver of ships even ancient wooden ones.

Of course you have the Swedish warship that sank on its first vovage the Vasa it was very well preserved. I visited the Vasa once on a summer trip my dad sent me by myself on having been only 18 I don't really remember much as I was more interested in Swedish women. I did buy one of those wooden etchings at the gift shop I still have it I like to hang it on kitchen walls and have people ask what the hell the Vasa is.

Indeed, there is no shipworm in the Baltic Sea which means wooden ships are often very well preserved. There is also no growth under 40 meters, and from the looks of things, this sub is sitting deeper than 40m. An interesting find nonetheless. I only wish the Ocean X Team could be a bit less assholish about stuff like this. It's obviously a PR stunt to garner interest in their services, just as what they did with the UFO thing. Turns out that someone having the same name as one of the guys in Ocean X Team asked questions about the Catfish about a year ago on Uboat.net. They almost certainly knew EXACTLY what they had found but chose to go all mysterious, and our press freaked out and wet their panties. :D:doh::/\\!!

Skipper is a great source for info on the Swedish navy and maritime stuff in general. Original post about the Som (Catfish):

http://navyskipper.blogspot.se/2015/...tockholms.html

Google translate:
https://translate.google.com/transla...tml&edit-text=

Threads merged.

Swedish Armed Forces confirms it is the Catfish that sank in 1916:

http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktu...venska-vatten/

100 years old and in very good condition :hmmm:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/atta...1&d=1438106981

:o

One of the reasons it could be so well preserved is that the oxygen content of the water might be very low.

Yeah, the Baltic is usually quite good to wrecks. Same reason that the Swedes were also able to raise the Vasa after more than 300 years and still find it in very good condition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

If the sub itself is so well preserved...I wonder what condition the crew are in. This is one of those situations where the urge to raise such a pristine find is tempered by the knowledge that it's a grave... :hmmm:

First of all I was wrong. It wasn't a modern sub from either the 80s or later.

Could I be wrong if I write.

Maybe the Swedish government allow some Russian company to raise the sub and take it home so the crew can get a funeral.

Markus