The success of both communism and capitalist ideals such as "trickle-down" are dependent on 'perfect' conditions: communism only works if everyone and everything is communist, and, "trickle-down" only works if all levels of the economic and social structures are totally in sync. Either way, I don't see either one really coming to fruition since, as you point out, human nature is human nature...

It's sort of like when I hear "neo-cons" touting a 'hands-off' policy towards regulating the excesses of the business and, particularly, financial sectors. They always say those sectors can be self-regulating or self-policing. Yeah, right, and how have the past attempts at "self-regulating" worked out? Should we ask those who lost out in the Great Depression, the Savings and Loan Collapse, and the Wall Street Great Recession how they feel about letting the tykes run the toy store? Whenever I hear or see some "neo-con" politico or Wall Street mouthpiece gleefully extol the virtues of "self-regulating", I really don't know if I want to groan or laugh; maybe I'll 'groaugh' or 'laugoan' ...


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For me, it will all come down to who will be running against her. If the GOP gives me another loser, once again I will be unable to vote for a candidate but will again be forced to vote against a candidate.

The election for POTUS seems to be the choosing of the lessor of two evils.

I truly wish it wasn't, for me.

A bird running your land would be better than another fool bush.

No it wouldn't as it'd be the smart Bush vs the crooked Clinton. Bill was just a horn dog, Hillary on the other hand is a pure megalomaniac with a very checkered past.

Shes too old, is she really the best the Democrats got? :hmmm:

Well, Marco Rubio has also chucked, or is about to chuck his hat in the ring. Doubt he'll get far though, or if he does he'll be easy prey for Hilary.

God help this forum if Clinton does get in though, I feel sorry for the GT mods. :haha:

Yeah that's what I keep wondering as well.

The GOP had no problems with Reagan, Romney, Dole, McCain. McCain is more than 10 years older than Hillary.

The Democrats have also fielded some oldsters in their time.

The smart Bush? Isn't that like being the best of the worst?...


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Ross Perot is the only candidate I've ever felt good about voting for, he was the last best chance for saving the sinking ship. :salute:

hadnt seen a office seeker i like yet they are so full of crap its not funny and if i balnce my checkbook like they run the country i be in prison for life i say we need to talk Neal in to running least i know him and trust him and honest do we need to pay their salery after they leave office now days if so slap a shovel in their hands so i can least see them do something and maybe they can experience sweat running down the crack of their butts for once.

you have other potential heavyweight candidates like New York gov. Andrew Cuomo that want to run, but no one wants to challenge Hillary.

For example Cuomo is aiming for 2020 if Hillary does not get in or 2024 if she does.

Looking at Hillary's 2016 campaign logo, I can't say I care for her sense of design.

http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/ima...PNG?1428937262

I'm not sure if it means exit stage right, or rush me to the hospital. :hmmm:

Exactly, i'll take a lot of persuasion to vote for her, but I prefer divided government, it's how it's supposed to be.

"Scooby van?" W...T..F?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...vent-site.html

That advisor need to be shot. :har: Brilliant!

The worst part is, we've got to hear for x amounts of months how she's meeting "real people." :har::shifty::dead:

I'd donate to her campaign if she drives the van the WHOLE time.

I'm sick of US political season...preseason...this BS never ends. Jebus.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7...letcher006.jpg
Get in the Scooby Van!

Well, I must admit anytime a major political candidate talks about "going out to press the flesh" my skin instinctively crawls. :D

Wow is not a good graphic in my opinion. I don't know what it is supposed to mean.

At a glance I would guess it means Hillary moving forward.

If you had been at the first board room meeting for the logo you would've known that it stands for Hillary's middle class bathroom sign.

I can see right through her ... if she didn't run she would have to stay home and listen to Bill say, "Why didn't your run honey" "You can beat any man out there"

Win or lose she generates a lot of money and why not run? Somehow someway all of her outstanding bills due from running in 2008 were paid by President Obama.

Like Rand Paul said, "She got that phone call in the middle of the night" and I say where is her email reactions? Classified as personal :oops:

I think VP Biden will put in his two shoes in the race and leak the juicy tidbits no one knows about and the Republicans will use to defeat her on election day 18 moons from now.

She can't win the redneck vote (not mine at least) :smug: