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pdiddy 04-03-15 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HertogJan (Post 2303320)
I wouldn't use the 'Estimated target speed' button (little chrono. icon) on the TDC as it doesn't take averages into account.
This video more or less shows the flaw in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shXw...MYYzhIipimDymS

Thanks HertogJan! I understand the concepts presented by the video. That chrono button is useful though, in checking the accuracy of your stadimeter readings. So if you've determined target course to be 090 and speed 5 through tracking. And you use stadimeter readings in close to feed them to the TDC, and hit the chrono button and "the crew" tells you target course is 091, speed 5 knots, you know you had very good stadimeter readings. If they say 120 at 7 knots, you know stadimeter readings were bad (or the target zigged in front of you) and you better update the system another way.

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Originally Posted by HertogJan (Post 2303320)
This link is about just that altho it was about night surface attacks:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ight=Periscope

Take a look at post #113 & post #143 where they tested different way's of dealing with the issue.

Great thread. I've already tweaked the AI settings for myself for a more enjoyable experience.:D (I like messing with the game files almost as much as I like playing the game.)

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I was too cryptic in my original post. My supposition is that the uber difficult AI in TMO renders meaningful use of manual targeting impossible. Unless you use auto-targeting or the Fast-90 technique for every attack, I believe you are hosed playing TMO. I am interested in hearing otherwise.

HertogJan 04-03-15 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pdiddy (Post 2303396)
Thanks HertogJan! I understand the concepts presented by the video. That chrono button is useful though, in checking the accuracy of your stadimeter readings.

That's just it... It isn't.
When you use the 3min or 6min method you'll have its speed and course, you do not need to verify it with the 'target speed calculator' after each stadimeter reading, it might give you a false speed indication.
I can understand you're running out of time due to this.... Trust your readings!!!! (you've drawn in on the map so you can verify everything on the fly)
If you're stadimeter readings are off by a 100yrds or 200yrds it doesn't matter, target speed and heading don't change.


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Originally Posted by pdiddy (Post 2303396)
I was too cryptic in my original post. My supposition is that the uber difficult AI in TMO renders meaningful use of manual targeting impossible. Unless you use auto-targeting or the Fast-90 technique for every attack, I believe you are hosed playing TMO. I am interested in hearing otherwise.

I start plotting its course the minute I get a sonar contact.. this also gives me my intercept course (the same way ColonelSanderLite does it in his 'lets play').
By the time they get in visual range I'll have a pretty good idea of its true heading and know its speed. As I'm already in position I can take very accurate readings, I turn on the 'postion keeper', start taking my first stadimeter reading around 5000yrds and simply press the send to TDC for range then speed (already turned the dial to target speed, just needed to send it) and last AoB (I know the first reading is not going to be accurate, who cares?!?).
I make a new range reading after every 10 degrees, the closer the target gets the more accurate it becomes... Like I said earlier, its speed and heading never changes (if it they do its because I've been spotted or they changed course, then I'll switch to my trusted hipshot).
It only gets tricky when they're getting within 2000yrds, I normally do my last stadimeter reading after the lead DD has passed my bow. One last check and off they go!

pdiddy 04-03-15 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HertogJan (Post 2303429)
That's just it... It isn't.

Thank you HertogJan. I understand completely now.

Pigboatcook 04-03-15 06:42 PM

Finally a good career with a good start. First thing I find out of Manila is the CA Maya. It took me several hours to work up a good firing position but she sits now on the bottom off Cam Ranh bay along with one of her escorts. Thanks for all the tips and encouragement to keep on trying.

HertogJan 04-04-15 02:18 AM

Picboatcook :Kaleun_Cheers:

les green01 04-04-15 09:04 AM

:yeah:


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