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Sailor Steve 02-28-15 03:44 AM
@ Hunter ICX: I keep telling people over and over that 8.1 addresses that very problem. There are at least two programs I know of that add the Menu Button back in. I use the one called Classic Shell and I use Win 8.1 exactly the way I did my old XP system.

But nobody listens. :dead:

Do I have complaints? Yes. They screwed up Media Player. They screwed up the User Account Control. There are fixes for both, but there shouldn't have to be. Despite these complaints I have no real problems. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

ReallyDedPoet 02-28-15 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DragonRider (Post 2282666)
Nope All went south Again darn it :nope:

Sorry to hear that.

HunterICX 03-01-15 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2291998)
@ Hunter ICX: I keep telling people over and over that 8.1 addresses that very problem. There are at least two programs I know of that add the Menu Button back in. I use the one called Classic Shell and I use Win 8.1 exactly the way I did my old XP system.

But nobody listens. :dead:

Do I have complaints? Yes. They screwed up Media Player. They screwed up the User Account Control. There are fixes for both, but there shouldn't have to be. Despite these complaints I have no real problems. I don't see what all the fuss is about.
I did listen, I'm aware of some fixes and the 8.1 update and that's why I said ''Bashed'' instead of ''Bash'' as I'm pretty aware that some people are quite happy with it now. I wouldn't say no to 8.1 now but I wouldn't shelf out another 150-200$ for a Windows 8 License whilst I got Windows 7 as I find it for myself that it shows minor improvements to justifiy the price tag.

Windows 10 license seems to be free for the ones that update to it within the first year of release so I see little reason to complain about that :D

Blebby 03-01-15 11:37 AM
I don't understand this "free on the first year" thing. What happens on the 2nd year ? Do I have to buy it ? How is this any help ? A discount would of been nice. It's not like it is subscription based.

HunterICX 03-02-15 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Blebby (Post 2292583)
I don't understand this "free on the first year" thing. What happens on the 2nd year ? Do I have to buy it ? How is this any help ? A discount would of been nice. It's not like it is subscription based.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-and-at-work/

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Windows 10 is changing that. As announced last week, current users of Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for no cost. Microsoft says that this will be a limited time offer that will run one year from the release of Windows 10; we honestly wouldn't be tremendously surprised to see that limited time offer extended.
Subsequently, and in some ways even more importantly, those new Windows 10 machines will continue to receive updates "for the lifetime of the device—at no cost." Those paid major version upgrades that Windows has historically had will be going away; once you're on the Windows 10 train, you're on the Windows train, and you'll continue to receive a steady stream of updates and upgrades until your system stops working and you buy or build a new one.
Basically, you're being offered a one time upgrade ticket to update your Windows 7 and 8 system to Windows 10, once you upgraded that license will last till the day you build/buy a new system or unfortuntely your system stops working. The offer for a free upgrade license from Win 7 & 8 to Win 10 is only 1 year after release.

Sailor Steve 03-02-15 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 2292567)
I wouldn't say no to 8.1 now but I wouldn't shelf out another 150-200$ for a Windows 8 License whilst I got Windows 7 as I find it for myself that it shows minor improvements to justifiy the price tag.
That's an excellent point. Why pay a bundle just to get what you already have?

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Windows 10 license seems to be free for the ones that update to it within the first year of release so I see little reason to complain about that :D
That seems pretty cool.

What does bug me in 8.1 are the changes made to a couple of parts, mainly Media Player. They took out the best parts of that program and when anybody complains they waste everybody's time explaining why it's better now. One advantage of 7 seems to be that MP 12 is integrated into Windows 8 and you can't replace it with an older version without breaking everything. I'm hoping 10 will resolve that.

ReallyDedPoet 03-03-15 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2291998)
@ I use the one called Classic Shell and I use Win 8.1 exactly the way I did my old XP system.
Great program. Thanks for posting Steve :yep::up:

CaptainHaplo 03-04-15 05:08 PM
I refuse to use W8, with or without fixes. It is a hybrid OS and as such I have no use for it.

With that said - W10 I like. Like, but not love. Its in tech preview so some things will change - and that is good. The "sliding side bar menu" frames that pop up really can screw up gaming (especially when using dosbox). Sleep mode that I don't want sticks around and is used way to often, etc... Other than that and a few other tweaks under the hood that are currently locked (can be unlocked but not worth it) its a solid OS.

They seriously need to stop pushing the cloud though - even installing requires "online credentials" (though madeup email accounts work).

By the time it "goes gold" I suspect a lot of the issue will be resolved.

STEED 03-05-15 09:18 AM
I was reading on some tech site Win10 will be made up of XP Win7/8 to what percentage they did not say. And some new stuff as well.

Jeff-Groves 03-06-15 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2294032)
I was reading on some tech site Win10 will be made up of XP Win7/8 to what percentage they did not say. And some new stuff as well.
If that's true I'll be looking for an error message like this.
:o
http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2010/0...y-error-15.jpg

Onkel Neal 04-30-15 10:24 PM
MS getting smarter :)

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"We've also heard loud and clear that many Windows Insiders want to see Aero Glass from Windows 7 make a comeback," Aul wrote. "We've been working out how to satisfy this request, and are trying some things out with this build to see how you like them."
http://www.computerworld.com/article...cord-time.html

STEED 05-08-15 12:14 PM
There will be no Win11

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

Jimbuna 05-09-15 10:04 AM
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His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Good to know.

Onkel Neal 06-01-15 06:50 PM
Microsoft Wraps Its Windows 10 Pitch, Here’s What You Need To Know

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/01/mic...-need-to-know/

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Microsoft announced today that Windows 10 will be available on July 29. The date matches prior leaks and promises from the company regarding when the new operating system will touch down. The release schedule also puts Windows 10 into the market before the back-to-school PC sales cycle, and, of course, the holiday season.

The software company is, in other words, putting itself in as good a spot as it can be to get Windows 10 into the hands of as many PC buyers as possible. The company also announced a ‘reserve‘ program that allows people to sign up, in a sense, for Windows 10. The new code, of course, will be a free upgrade for most PC users.
New laptop in 60 days....:rock:

AVGWarhawk 06-01-15 06:56 PM
I got the offer today. I installed a new version of 7 over my Vista(that had not real issues for me but slowly losing support) last year.

If MS will provide me with free OS I will certainly take them up on it.

Onkel Neal 06-01-15 07:25 PM
Oh dang, it's being promoted by Bill himself :o

Task Force 06-02-15 04:32 AM
So, has it been determined if this will mess with my Windows 7 license? It will still be active if I do this magic upgrade, and will still work if I install 7 again after 10 blows itself up?

Sadly... Many of the applications I use don't run on Linux so, stuck with Windows.

Jimbuna 06-03-15 08:46 AM
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Microsoft announced today that Windows 10 will be available on July 29. The date matches prior leaks and promises from the company regarding when the new operating system will touch down. The release schedule also puts Windows 10 into the market before the back-to-school PC sales cycle, and, of course, the holiday season.

The software company is, in other words, putting itself in as good a spot as it can be to get Windows 10 into the hands of as many PC buyers as possible. The company also announced a ‘reserve‘ program that allows people to sign up, in a sense, for Windows 10. The new code, of course, will be a free upgrade for most PC users.
Signed up for the free upgrade offer the other day and now realise W10 will be available on my birthday :cool:

AVGWarhawk 06-04-15 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2318439)
Signed up for the free upgrade offer the other day and now realise W10 will be available on my birthday :cool:
Bill Gates wanted to send you something on your birthday. Enjoy!

Jimbuna 06-05-15 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2318716)
Bill Gates wanted to send you something on your birthday. Enjoy!
Well I'll certainly give it a spin Chris because I can always revert back to my W7 installation disc if I don't rate W10 :)


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