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Feuer Frei! 10-01-14 08:53 AM

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncsta....JPG?ve=1&tl=1

Much better picture.

Jimbuna 10-01-14 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2247757)
Wouldn't it be World War E?

In the US possibly but that picture still is in Israel :03:

Rockstar 10-01-14 11:00 AM

That was quick, second person possibly infected with Ebola being monitored in Dallas.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ient/16525649/

Play a tune for us boys, she's going down. :salute:
Songe d'Automne

STEED 10-01-14 11:12 AM

Speculative traders will make a killing, no pun intended.

Oberon 10-01-14 12:06 PM

http://images3.cliqueclack.com/tv/fi...killed-rev.jpg

STEED 10-01-14 12:19 PM

I see your on the ball today Oberon. :03:

Oberon 10-01-14 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2247834)
I see your on the ball today Oberon. :03:

Just a...gut feeling, shall we say? :03: :O:

STEED 10-01-14 12:27 PM

:har: :up:

Wolferz 10-01-14 04:35 PM

We'll be checking the eyes at customs.
 
The bleeding is a dead give away.:dead::up:

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Oberon 10-02-14 06:01 AM

Naturally, the right-wing sites have thought about the transmission of Ebola carefully and done plenty of research about its spread before spreading their opinion on Barack HUSSEIN!!!!111oneone Obama:

http://www.redstate.com/2014/10/02/b...ted-countries/


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Skybird 10-02-14 06:07 AM

Honestly, I wonder why air and ship travel to the places in Africa where Ebola is out of control, have not been subject to limitations and bans.

Oberon 10-02-14 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2248033)
Honestly, I wonder why air and ship travel to the places in Africa where Ebola is out of control, have not been subject to limitations and bans.

I guess we've been depending on peoples common sense not to smear the bodily fluids of Ebola inflected over themselves... :hmmm: We've also been relying on them to wash their hands and conduct basic hygiene. :hmmm:

Rockstar 10-02-14 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2248033)
Honestly, I wonder why air and ship travel to the places in Africa where Ebola is out of control, have not been subject to limitations and bans.


Not sure if closing boarders would actually do any good. Especially for the countries that are suffering from Ebola outbreaks. Their economy would suffer, needed supplies would stall, people will panic and the virus would still spread.

What happened in Dallas is certainly a wake-up call. But I'd bet ya dollars to donuts next time someone from Africa complains of having a fever. They will not be simply told "take two of these and call me in the morning". IMO I think the response to his illness was the problem not so much that he was allowed to travel.

Jimbuna 10-02-14 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2248048)
I guess we've been depending on peoples common sense not to smear the bodily fluids of Ebola inflected over themselves... :hmmm: We've also been relying on them to wash their hands and conduct basic hygiene. :hmmm:

Not for much longer I suspect.

Dread Knot 10-02-14 06:49 AM

The flight path of the Dallas Ebola victim. The authorities seem confident that he was still in the pre-infectious stage of the disease during all this travelling.

I certainly hope so.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...8_77954787.jpg

Oberon 10-02-14 07:53 AM

We'll know soon enough, Ebola is not the most intelligent of virii, it's a fast burner, and people are usually only infectious when they start displaying symptoms. It's not airbourne, and can be destroyed very easily through heating and cleaning fluids that are common in the west. So if he has spread it, it will be easy to contain providing people don't panic and they follow instructions.

In Africa, of course, it's a different story, cleaning fluids and disinfectants are scarce, burial practices involve contact with bodily fluids, and so it's not really a surprise that the outbreak has spread so dramatically. Unfortunately I expect it will continue to do so for some time, just as polio is rife in Syria at the moment.

Now, if this was something like Marburg or the 1918 flu outbreak then I'd be bricking it, but thankfully it isn't.

Skybird 10-02-14 08:16 AM

I see no reason why no bans should be placed on flights by people whose travels are not in any way "vital". The man in the US - was described as tourist. Sorry, but vacancy in that area? Business managers could evade on video conferences. And so on.

Hell, in some Asian countries like Japan and Korea people are educated to wear masks in public when having something harmless like a flu.

If it becomes worse, one will need to do so anyway. Just that one will have done it too late then.

With the shift in climate regions and tropical conditions spreading to the North, these issues will become a growing concern.

Scientists of the Robert-Koch-Institut showed already 2013 animations of how a virus pandemic woudl spread via mass traffic, mainly by air, if taking several Western cities as a starting point. Problem is that the virus reaches areas far away much faster and earlier, than regions that are close to the place of first infection, a virus reaches from Frankfurt to London faster than it reaches to another region inside Germany, for example.

So traffic control is an inevitable measure when needing to fight a pandemic, especially air traffic.

The US government has ordered, all of a sudden, 150,000 units of biohazard protection gear for staff and personnel.

The risk with Ebola is that it could m utate, and could adapt better to human physiology, making it more infectous. the good news is that it is so lethal that it burns out quite fast. On the ground it kills the population of possible hosts faster than these hosts could reach out and carry it to new populations of hosts.

If only there would not be long distance travelling via airliners, and highspeed trains, and the individual car traffic in the developed world on well established roadnetworks making it easy to cover long distances in short time.

Due to the simulations by the Robert Koch Institut, it is safe to say that restricting air traffic should not be considered as a later measurement, but as one of the earliest options to go with.

There are animation videos of the study available on the web, for various American and European cities.

Dread Knot 10-02-14 08:43 AM

Well, for anyone who is getting a bit spooked by all this news, I've got some light diversionary reading I can recommend. :)


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p1IO2se12V...600/stand2.jpg

Oberon 10-02-14 08:54 AM

:haha: :up:

ikalugin 10-02-14 09:20 AM

I guess then that people who exit their house once in a month and use advanced water filtering are about as well protected from a mass epidemic as it gets.

p.s. I have calculated that to keep a yearly supply for a 5 man fammily in the form of army MRE type stuff (in Russia) it would cost onself around 120145 rubles 83 kopecs per month, not something I could afford with my pocket money :*( .


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