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Jimbuna 04-13-14 06:22 AM

They buy the F35 and they'll not have anything left to purchase the fuel needed :)

vanjast 04-14-14 02:06 AM

funny how no one has mentioned this..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA

:03:

Stealhead 04-14-14 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2196678)
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True it may not be as fast as modern jets but how well could a heat seeking missile track them? After all its got no jet exhaust

Very easily actually a heat seeking missile sees a difference in infrared signatures anything that produces heat above the atmospheric temperatures can be seen.Modern IR can even lock onto the heat signature of the friction of airflow across the fuselage.

Heck the early AIM-9 and AIM-4 very often took down remote flown WWII stock a modern IR missile would have a much easier time.Some US drones have been killed by Taliban using MANPADS it just does not make the news and they have a lower IR signature than a P-51.

The appearance of the SA-7 in Vietnam in 1971 put a fairly rapid end to the career of the A-1.

Jimbuna 04-14-14 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vanjast (Post 2197283)
funny how no one has mentioned this..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA

:03:

Most likely because the winning candidate will be announced mid 2015 and the Sukhoi is not expected to become operational in Russia until a year later.

Oberon 04-14-14 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2197413)
Most likely because the winning candidate will be announced mid 2015 and the Sukhoi is not expected to become operational in Russia until a year later.

That and I can't see a member of NATO buying anything Russian in the current climate... :03:

Jimbuna 04-14-14 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2197509)
That and I can't see a member of NATO buying anything Russian in the current climate... :03:

Oh I don't know...I hear the Russians have some Ukrainian aircraft going for a bargain basement price :hmmm:

Wolferz 04-18-14 09:49 AM

I think you'd be better off spending the money on anything other than fancy military hardware.

nikimcbee 04-18-14 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2197509)
That and I can't see a member of NATO buying anything Russian in the current climate... :03:

...so I guess buying MiG-21s is out then?

nikimcbee 04-18-14 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2196912)
America's military industrial complex thanks you for your support.:up:

Free floor mats with every unit purchased.:yep:

:haha::haha::haha:
Is there a discount if we buy in bulk? Does Costco carry them?:/\\k:

Wolferz 04-18-14 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 2199029)
:haha::haha::haha:
Is there a discount if we buy in bulk? Does Costco carry them?:/\\k:

Only on the website to be delivered from the warehouse. If you wish to discuss a bulk rate purchase, call 1-800 COSTCO:D

Aktungbby 04-18-14 11:39 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/us-f35-fighter-jet-approves-transatlantic-flight Get over to Britain in July and determine firsthand; With an uppity Soviet rebuilding current, maybe the expense and "who we fightin'" issues are up for re-examination! this bad boy is scheduled for the London RIAT and Farborough, England airshows! Good for the economy indeed if nothing el$e! http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...9-460x276.jpeg

kraznyi_oktjabr 04-19-14 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2199210)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/us-f35-fighter-jet-approves-transatlantic-flight Get over to Britain in July and determine firsthand; With an uppity Soviet rebuilding current, maybe the expense and "who we fightin'" issues are up for re-examination! this bad boy is scheduled for the London RIAT and Farborough, England airshows! Good for the economy indeed if nothing el$e! http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...9-460x276.jpeg

If they can cut its price tremendously then ofcourse that may eventually be worth purchasing but again what will you do with aircraft you can't afford to lose? If premise is that none will be lost then I'm sure there will very ugly wake up call inbound. Remember F-117 over Serbia? :hmmm:

krashkart 04-19-14 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 2196839)
Oh the joys of corporate wellf... ehh investments to sustain industrial base! :D

Investment. Yes. That's it! Investment. It is an investment in Denmark's future. That's how we'll sell it! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=5374 :haha:

mapuc 04-19-14 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 2199304)
Investment. Yes. That's it! Investment. It is an investment in Denmark's future. That's how we'll sell it! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=5374 :haha:


And that's the problem that our politicians are just like you, and me susceptible to commercial jipp japp. ending up buying something that would cost Denmark a whole lot more than expected

A perfect example is our famous IC4 train.

Markus

Schroeder 04-19-14 03:11 PM

If you're looking for a two engined bargain fighter we just retired our F4 Phantom II fleet.:D

mapuc 04-19-14 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2199423)
If you're looking for a two engined bargain fighter we just retired our F4 Phantom II fleet.:D


That's the problem with one of the candidate-the F/A-18 by the time the first plane arrives in Denmark about 2020 the F/A-18 would have been in service for a very long time and I guess it will be singing it's last line in the USA's defense

The F/A 18 is of course a well proved plane no more child sickness a.s.o.

Remember the candidate to the danish Airforce's F-16 is to be the next backbone for about 40-50 years. Counting from 2020. The first F-16 arrived in Denmark in 1980.


Markus

Wolferz 04-20-14 06:12 AM

Oh the problems of wanting air superiority.

I hear Germany has a great deal on some surplus V-2 rockets and Komets.:up:

Jimbuna 04-20-14 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2199431)
That's the problem with one of the candidate-the F/A-18 by the time the first plane arrives in Denmark about 2020 the F/A-18 would have been in service for a very long time and I guess it will be singing it's last line in the USA's defense

The F/A 18 is of course a well proved plane no more child sickness a.s.o.

Remember the candidate to the danish Airforce's F-16 is to be the next backbone for about 40-50 years. Counting from 2020. The first F-16 arrived in Denmark in 1980.


Markus

Depending how near to the F35 I can get this year I'll let you know what it's like :)

Schroeder 04-20-14 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2199584)
Oh the problems of wanting air superiority.

I hear Germany has a great deal on some surplus V-2 rockets

I wasn't aware one could achieve air superiority with a ground to ground missile...:hmm2:

@Mapuc

well, you should take our Phantoms. The enemy isn't allowed to shoot at them anymore as they are now historical aircraft and could become part of the world technological heritage protected by the UN.:yeah:
:D

Oberon 04-20-14 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2199589)
I wasn't aware one could achieve air superiority with a ground to ground missile...:hmm2:

Hit the airfields. :03:


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