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kbosak 12-09-13 02:47 AM

660 orkan should have 4xdual RBS15 MK3 mounts, user downgradeable to either RBS15 MK2 and/or 4 single mounts

Concerning 23mm on Polish ships,
as said before, there are
Wrobel I (50 bullets per barrel, 100 per two, equals to 5x20 bursts)
and
Wrobel II (200 bullets per barrel, 400 per two, equals to 20x20 bursts) with 2 Grails

Wrobel II
206 minehunters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtlJTnt-UvI
207 minehunters
767 LST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZXpeoIDCE)
130 minehunter base/specops base http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfMDm-moQMk
all are not present in the DB

All others incl Kaszub proj 620 are Wrobel 1.
therefore Kaszub goes down to 5x20pcs rounds per mount

BTW Tarantuls are no lonbger in service since that month.

emsoy 12-11-13 02:36 AM

Noted, thanks!

Will get to this once Command 1.02 is out :woot:

emsoy 01-05-14 03:09 AM

Added the following:

511 Kontradmiral Xawery Czernicki [Pr.130Z] -- Poland (Navy), 2002, Modified Pr.130, NATO: Bereza
821 Lublin [Pr.767] -- Poland (Navy), 1990

Also made the changes you requested.

Thanks! :D

mx1 01-18-14 06:15 PM

As I plan to do my own scenario related to the same area and sides I've read this topic with great interest. I've also downloaded the scenario provided by kbosak to learn more about the subject. I'd like to contribute my own research results in form of:
1. Units representing Polish Air Force bases - currently just two: Malbork AFB and Mińsk Mazowiecki AFB. I have modeled individual components of bases (instead of 'single unit airfield') using satellite imagery from Google and custom overlays in Command. I am working on the remaining 3 bases that are currently operational (Łask, Poznań, Świdwin). I also provide overlay files for all 5 bases in separate download.
2. Units representing NATO long range radar sites in Poland (there are six of them). I've corrected their location from the original scenario, based on the satellite images. The issue with current database is that it lacks Polish radar models. Three out of six radars are Polish made NUR-12 radars. I've modeled all six as RAT-31DL (as only these are in DB right now) but changed names of NUR-12 units.

As I can't upload anything on this site, here are the links to the Google Drive files:
1. Export of units (AFBs + radars) - 7kB (DB3000 build 403).
2. Overlay files for 5 Polish AFBs - 160MB (zipped PNGs + world files)

Herman 01-18-14 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx1 (Post 2165102)
As I can't upload anything on this site, here are the links to the Google Drive files:
1. Export of units (AFBs + radars) - 7kB (DB3000 build 403).
2. Overlay files for 5 Polish AFBs - 160MB (zipped PNGs + world files)

You can post files to the SubSim Download library at:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...p?do=cat&id=98

If you require additional access authorization, you can contact Neal Stevens at:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/priv...newpm&u=209959

If you prefer, I can post them on your behalf, just ask.

Sunburn 01-19-14 04:21 AM

Hi mx1,

Do you wish that your files be added to subsequent Command official (.inst files) and community (overlays) releases? This will make them available to everyone who may use them to make scenarios dealing with this region. Please let us know.

Thanks!

mx1 01-19-14 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herman (Post 2165107)
You can post files to the SubSim Download library at:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...p?do=cat&id=98

I don't see the option to upload to this section.

Quote:

If you require additional access authorization, you can contact Neal Stevens at:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/priv...newpm&u=209959

If you prefer, I can post them on your behalf, just ask.
Thank you, I'll contact Neal then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunburn (Post 2165191)
Hi mx1,

Do you wish that your files be added to subsequent Command official (.inst files) and community (overlays) releases? This will make them available to everyone who may use them to make scenarios dealing with this region. Please let us know.

Thanks!

It would be an honor to have them added to official releases. I should update remaining AFBs soon. I also work on the SAM sites and naval SS sites.

Some more corrections to database regarding Poland:
1. S-75M Wolchow has been withdrawn from service in 2001.
2. S-75 Dvina has been withdrawn from service in 1990.
3. S-125M replaced S-125 in 1978 (not in 1979).
4. 2K11 Krug was introduced in 1976 (still in service).
5. 2K12E Kvadrat was introduced in 1974 (still in service).
6. 9K33M2 was introduced in 1980 (not in 1984).

mx1 01-21-14 05:30 PM

I've uploaded the updated version of the .inst file to the "Downloads" section and updated overlays to the Google Drive (same link as before, file is now 291 MB). I have not playtested the airbases, but they should be fully usable (have all required components). As they are modeled based on reality and not fine tuned for playability I am not sure if aircraft capacity and landing/takeoff rates will be correct (as far I understand they depend on the number of runway access points).
Overlays contain Navy airbases which are not yet found in .inst file. I plan to update .inst file to include them as well.

Sunburn 01-21-14 05:42 PM

Thanks! Appreciated.

If you don't see them on the next update(s) please drop me a note. Thank you!

Herman 01-21-14 07:11 PM

Thanks for posting your bases. I'm sure SubSim members will be appreciative of your efforts.

mx1 01-23-14 05:18 PM

Package updated with all 17 radar sites of Polish Air Force. See package notes for details.

Sunburn 01-24-14 03:09 AM

Thanks!

emsoy 02-26-14 12:05 AM

Have added the following:

W-3T Sokol -- Poland (Navy), 1987, 2x
W-3T Sokol -- Poland (Army), 1987, 4x, Mi-2 inspired
W-3RM/WARM Anakonda -- Poland (Navy), 1990, 8x
W-3W/WA Sokol -- Poland (Army), 1990, 34x
PZL M28B Bryza 1RM bis [An-28 Copy] -- Poland (Navy), 1995, 7x
SSM Bty (Naval Strike Missile (NSM)) -- Poland (Navy), 2013, 2x + 1x NUR-15 Odra-C FCR
Radar (NUR-11) -- Poland (Air Force), 1994
Radar (NUR-12 [TRD-1211]) -- Poland (Air Force), 1996, Mobile
Radar (NUR-12M [TRD-1222]) -- Poland (Air Force), 2008, Backbone, Fixed
Radar (NUR-12ME [TRD-1235]) -- Poland (Air Force), 2008, Mobile, Upgraded NUR-12
Radar (NUR-15 Odra [TRS-15]) -- Poland (Air Force), 2008, Mobile Medium-Range 3D Surveillance
Radar (NUR-15 Odra-C [TRS-15C]) -- Poland (Navy), 2011, 2x, NSM Fire Control
Radar (NUR-15 Odra-M [TRS-15M]) -- Poland (Air Force), 2016, Mobile Medium-Range 3D Surveillance, TRS-19 Export Designation
Radar (NUR-21) -- Poland (Army), 1988, Mobile Tactical Radar
Radar (NUR-22 Izabela) -- Poland (Army), 1996, MR Air Search, NUR-21 replacement
Radar (NUR-26A) -- Poland (Army), 1996, MR Air Search, NUR-21 replacement
Radar (NUR-31) -- Poland (Air Force), 1978, Assoc w NUR-41 HF
Radar (NUR-41 HF) -- Poland (Air Force), 1978, Assoc w NUR-31 2D

Enjoy! :rotfl2:

emsoy 02-26-14 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx1 (Post 2165217)

Some more corrections to database regarding Poland:
1. S-75M Wolchow has been withdrawn from service in 2001.
2. S-75 Dvina has been withdrawn from service in 1990.
3. S-125M replaced S-125 in 1978 (not in 1979).
4. 2K11 Krug was introduced in 1976 (still in service).
5. 2K12E Kvadrat was introduced in 1974 (still in service).
6. 9K33M2 was introduced in 1980 (not in 1984).

Thanks :yeah: Have made some corrections, SAM systems are now as follows:

SAM Bn (SA-2b Guideline [S-75 Dvina]) -- Poland (Air Force), 1962-1990
SAM Bn (SA-2d Guideline Mod 1 [S-75M Volkhov]) -- Poland (Air Force), 1966-2001
SAM Bn (SA-3a Goa [S-125 Neva]) -- Poland (Air Force), 1969
SAM Bn (SA-3b Goa [S-125M Pechora]) -- Poland (Air Force), 1979
SAM Bn (SA-6a Gainful [2K12E Kvadrat]) -- Poland (Army), 1977, 4x Bn + Long Track + Thin Skin B HF + Spoon Rest D + Flat Face B
SAM Bn/2 (SA-8b Gecko Mod-0 [9K33M2 Romb]) -- Poland (Army), 1981, 2x Plt pr Bn, 5x Bn + Long Track + Thin Skin B HF + Flat Face B pr Regt
SAM Bty (SA-4 Ganef [2K11 Krug]) -- Poland (Army), 1975, 1x Brigade, 3x Bty pr Bn, 3x Bn + Long Track + Thin Skin B HF pr Bde
SAM Grp (SA-5c Gammon [S-200M Vega M], 3x Bn) -- Poland (Air Force), 1987, 1x Grp

kbosak 02-26-14 12:53 PM

Polish Navy 2014 is available
 
4. 2K11 Krug was introduced in 1976 (still in service).
5. 2K12E Kvadrat was introduced in 1974 (still in service).

I disagree. IMO only NEVA remains active, based on military forums. We have basically no AA armament except 21 NEVA-SC, lots of 57mm, 23mm, GROM and airforce.

mx, pls contact me kbosak@box43 in order to get Polish navy 2014. I have trouble posting it on the proper forums.

emsoy 03-02-14 02:18 AM

Guys if you have more info on the decomm dates that'd be great. Thanks :woot:


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