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Stealhead 05-26-13 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2063266)
Have you noticed the price disparity between diesel and gasoline? Diesel costs more than gas for no good reason. It takes fewer steps to crack oil into diesel than it does gasoline. A fact that used to make diesel cheaper per gallon.
Why do you suppose it flip fopped?
Because diesel fuel moves our freight? Because fuel oil runs our boilers? Some oil executive decided to make it so? All of the above?

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It costs more because the demand for diesel has risen.The federal tax for diesel is also higher than the federal on gasoline. .24 cents per gallon compared to .6 cents per gallon on gasoline.

I'm sorry but not everything is a conspiracy of oil companies.And dont mistake me for a person who does not ask questions I barely fit into that mold in the military and often got in trouble for my free thinking. If oil companies really had the power to force us to drive less efficient vehicles new cars would not be averaging 34+ per gallon hell even pickups now are averaging 25MPG fifteen years ago the typical sedan got 25~28MPG now they get 30 at worst and trucks went from ~14 to 25 MPG so vehicles are getting more fuel efficient despite your claim that oil companies want less efficient engines.They must really be holding the auto makers ears to the frying pan.

Additionally everyone in China and India wants to drive a car now so the demand for both gasoline and diesel has risen as a result.


Diesel has been used in heavy equipment for many years so the argument that the price is higher for that reason does not stand.Fuel oil is but one method to heat a structure and it is rapidly being replaced by natural gas in many places.


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/die...asoline-costs/

Wolferz 05-27-13 10:53 AM

All good points Stealhead. Higher demand always equates to higher prices thanks to those meddling speculators on Wall Street and Uncle Sam's need for cash.:down:

For me, all points are moot since I don't drive much anymore. A 25 gallon tank of petrol in my V-8 pickup lasts me about a month.:up:
I could probably get by with an electric car as my trips are mostly short hops but, the current cost of that type of vehicle is prohibitive. I wouldn't mind having a Tesla parked in my driveway.

If we really wanted to boil down the technology of our internal combustion pushers, you could say that they're all electrically powered since it takes some very high voltage to detonate a fuel/air mixture. Without that you have a gargantuan paper weight. Diesels are the exception to some degree because they only have glow plugs to start the cycle and detonation is caused by high compression.

Thank goodness I don't have to depend on a fuel oil boiler to heat my home. I burn COAL baby. No natural gas in my neck of the woods prohibits that type of heat and propane is more expensive than fuel oil. Not to mention inherently dangerous.

Stealhead 05-27-13 04:51 PM

The whole MPG thing can be very deceiving because how a person drives and most importantly accelerates and brakes has huge effect.Also the "rules" the EPA has about the testing auto makers are supposed to do is very loosely interpreted.

The people that drive around and mash the gas a lot and get to the speed they want to travel at rapidly will always have crap mileage.If they where to drive any vehicle in the same manner they would still have poor mileage results be it a gasoline or hydrogen or electric.

I am the steady type when I am driving most of the time (excluding certain times that I drive my Z car) so I get fairly good mileage.What I really get a kick out of are the people that stomp the gas get up to 70 or whatever and then 500 yards down the road they turn off.What a waste of fuel just to get there .5 seconds faster.

Sometimes I see a Prius (which I already think is a preposterous car because it more of a total impact on the environment than a Toyota Tundra thanks to its complex construction and the sourcing required to make a Prius) and the driver is going 90 MPH I think what a jack wagon the odds are also very high that the driver is also a vegan and makes sure that he mentions it to everyone that he meets.You ever notice that? I have no idea how many people I know are herbivores or that dont eat pork or whatever but I know of total strangers that are vegans and usually they do drive a Prius and give it a stupid name like Taco Blanco gluten free, meat free, fish free, harmed plant free Taco Blanco.Why not ride a bicycle if you really wanted to protect the environment?

Not trying to ruffle any Prius owning vegans out there just rambling.If you choose to make yourself known though............


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