Actually trying to work across party lines...Unlike 90% of our government.

He was kicked out of the GOP "good ol boys" club for praising Obama on his response to Hurricane/superstorm Sandy.

Too bad congress crapped on our relief funds, I bet the red state tornado guys get the cash though, no obstruction or fillibusters at all!

Good post, but you do not really think that a republican president would not have done that ? Of course he would have !
So I really wonder why republicans now bash Obama for using drones ..
I was astonished though Obama did it. What became of his promises, like Guantanamo. The nobel prize indeed.
If a 'democrat' Potus does the same as a 'republican' one, where is the choice ?

What party lines? A crap neighborhood in NJ. There is no party lines. Hurricane Sandy has nothing to do with my question. Obama is not mentioned. What is Christie doing about this neighborhood?

anyone notice how they called in drones to help find Christopher Dorner?

they went so far as to label him as a "Domestic Terrorist" at one point

how much further does this need to be pushed before you end up with a situation where a man on the run is labeled a domestic terrorist and gets a bomb dropped on him?

then the state tells the people "He was a bad guy, he was a domestic terrorist! we had to do this we had no choice"

how long before the people start buying those explanations as acceptable?

it is then... when it is not questioned or really thought about that anyone who questions the government, questions the president, questions authority - whatever - is suddenly a violent domestic terrorist and should be drone-smashed

Like it or not...

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The "they" here was the LAPD, who have come under massive criticism for how they handled this. Nobody further up the food chain considered Dorner a terrorist.

Quite a lot further.

I agree

but that it is even on the table is a problem

Just for the record, I get tested at my job, I operate heavy machinery. I can get nailed even if I drink too close to the blood test.

Just saying, sorry to derail, again, I suck.:timeout:

Not a stoner myself, used to be, but I do not see the harm in it (IMHO)

I am with you on the prozac and pot reference. Sadly we are potential drone hellfire missile targets because of it.

He put a cap on property taxes, which NJ is highest in the nation on, My taxes rise every year, thanks to school unions, fleecing the taxpayers with no kids...

He stood up for NJ citizens getting screwed by insurance companies, and congress, when anytime a thunderstorm farts in a southern state, they get the dollars no freaking problem.

But with a blue state, it is a problem...

I can go on and on. He also adresses people in open town halls, no prescreened questions, or prescreened admissions, he talks to people on the radio weekly. adresses concerns, and even solves some citizens problems instantly, using his connections.

I live in NJ. I know what he has done, and I am making more money in his term. My property taxes actually stabilzed, rather than going up, as my house value dropped.

Once again I live in NJ, and go ahead make a stinky joke, but he has turned this state around, despite partisan crap.

(by the way I am left leaning, and Christie is a Republican, so yeah, I am judging what is best, and not my political leaning.)

(Edit: always a big fan of yours AVG, great plane, and even greater person. Please do not take my statements as hostility, simply debating a pal :))

Were did you read that you are a target if you are on prozac or smoke pot? Last time I check a few states legalized pot. Prozac is a prescribed medication.

None of what stated has helped the What are you afraid of in the real "ghetto" crap hole? Why has Christie not cleaned up Newark? Will not help him politically no reason to address the ghetto?

Like any politician, they will not touch an inner city ghetto.

Pisses off the activists. Chicago and Detroit can be brought up as well, no politician cares about those cities.

I am not call Christie Jesus, just giving a moderate republican some creedence in a world of "Christian Sharia" tea baggers, and John "crybaby jobs,jobs,jobs" Boehner.

I've been to new jersey several times.

it has its nice areas, but on the whole, most of the entire state is a garbage heap.

I pray i never have to go back to that place.

the graffiti is really nice in the fall though :up:

You keep touting Christie for 2016. Will DC improve, as well as the country, with another politician that will not touch the inner cities?

The western side towards PA is not bad at all. Countryside!

You must have been up north, where New York has spilled it crap over onto us.

Come down the shore, there is more to Jersey than what ya see on the stinky Turnpike.:D

Belmar, NJ. I guarantee the sea air, and great nightlife will change your mean opinion. Meany!:D

I thought Cape May was decent.

I go where the work sends me.

The north half of the state is unpleasant.

Im looking at you Jersey City

specifically right at you Stegman Street :stare:

Drive down Martin Luther King boulevard for a real show.

Jersey City is so close to Newark it may as well be the same thing.:D Literally 5 minutes drive away, no bull

I am so sorry you had to see that...I got some stories from my drug filled youth, when I actually put myself into places like this.

Monmouth county south is safe, and beautiful.

Until you get to Camden, which is scuzzed up by Philly.

NJ gets a bad rap, but it is NYC ers and Phillies who overspill all of their crime into our suburb.


North Jersey stinks because New York city and its smog stinks us up. South Jersey stinks because Camden and Philly are gang ridden cesspits.

Central Jersey, Goldilocks. Just right.:D:up:

Every state/city has its pleasant areas and its cess pools.

Even Utah, Salt Lake City has its gang banger drug dealing abstainers from drinking caffeine.

I think there is to some extent a reluctance to deal with ghetto areas it seems easier to just ignore them.

Not that much of this has anything to do with Hellfire equipped drones.

If a white girl gets killed it is a huge story, if a few bangers off each other it is business as usual.

That is why we hear about the Natalie Halloways, and not the Shamequa Browns.

Look at all the attention Chicago gets, for the wrong reasons.

Some of these cats deserve a missile, but a trial by peers would be better.

I am all about justice, and letter of the law.

Obama and Holder got a little too power happy, and will now reap the hellfire.

(edit: is that discourse Takeda? don't want to offend a forum favorite)

You guys keep talking of big bombs and missiles but I think future attack drones will be the size of flies or smaller. You don't have to create a 30ft crater to kill someone and it almost always causes collateral damage when you do.

I also think Skybird is right about them being autonomous (subject to some sort of abort/recall signal of course). Imagine the ability to release a bunch of flies on the outskirts of a city and they all go find the jugular veing of their intended targets wherever they might be hiding. Self powered and solar regenerated they can wait for months on the side of a building or tree for their target to appear and when it does the drone activates and completes it's mission.

On the surveillance side this continued miniaturization in drone technology will eventually allow the operator to gain visual and audio (and other sensory) access to just about anywhere. If we can't stop cockroaches and other bugs from invading our living spaces we ain't gonna stop tiny drones. The only way to counter it would be to allow the use of counter technology such as signal jamming, drone detecting systems, even maybe my personal favorite hunter killer, anti-drone drones . :D

Times are a changing and it's going to be a challenge to preserve our rights and liberties.