The way the police are handling this situation with complete apathy and inaction is disgusting. They have the legal means to reinstate order up to and including use of lethal force but they're not even arresting anyone. It's absolutely pathetic.

Can't blame them, though. Last time there were riots in Malmö with muslim gangs shooting peoples dogs, torching cars and forcing civilians at gunpoint (because yay gun control laws) to throw rocks on the police the media focused all their energy on drumming up a hate campaign to paint the police as racist thugs in order to discredit them.

But this is a country where 90% of the population are brainwashed leftist sheep who believe everything the communist media says even when the journalists openly admit they are selectively reporting on issues that push their own agenda.

The legal requirements for buying a gun are actually rather strict, but the guns in the suburbs aren't bought the legal way. Most of them originate from the Balkan wars, so CZ's are commonly used in the Gothenburg shootouts. So far, guns seems to be used by those who have climbed a few steps on the gangster corporate ladder. Street robbers and gang rapists usually make do with knifes or basaball bats.

Yes, the media coverup has been effective. I believed them too, until last summer when the shootings here in Gothenburg escalated to Malmö-levels. There are a few sites where official police documents are scanned and published, and when 9 out of 10 of the involved are named Al-Khaleed, Abdullah or Mohammed, well ... you do the math. In Denmark and Norway, the press will not hide the criminals origin, but in Sweden we are sooo politically correct.

14 suburbs burned last night and the media is still trying to put part of the blame on the police for being too harsh and racist. In a recent poll, only 24% of the Swedes said that they trust journalists and the major newspapers are losing about 10% of their readers each year.

It's correct, we have, as many other countries, problems with some of our foreigners. It's also correct that we have some kind of censorship regarding our immigration policy

But and it's very important that we doesn't generalizes. Most of them, so even the Muslims do behave. their work, they pay their taxes a.s.o

Markus

My condolences, but how about these....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo_shooting

Filled with lead for simply trying to produce his ID.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

Sodomized with a plunger in the station house, another black immigrant, see a trend yet?

Both (officers involved in abuses in each case) got off somewhat scot free. Suspended with pay is such a bad punishment, in my world it is called a payed vacation, in police-land it is a punishment.

The swedes do not hold a monopoly on brutality, I am pretty sure the NYPD taught your guys everything they know

Love that big Blue Corrupt wall, and how they shield crimes from public attention the best they could, making real (peace loving) Officers of the law look bad.
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So who keeps an eye on you???

Amadou Diallo.

Shot 19 times out of 41 shots fired by officers, he was producing the ID, they asked for before opening fire, no convictions on the officers.


Abner Louima
Sodomized with a plunger by NYPD.
Won a lawsuit, but no wrongdoing admitted by the department as part of the plea bargain.

Sean Bell.

Shot at 50 times by multiple cops, unarmed of course, and once again in the city of New York.

I am sorry, and will catch crap for this, but you reap what you sow.

At least in the case of NYC PD, the police are repugnant, and the only thing that separates them from criminals is the badge and legal firearms. (try owning a handgun in NYC)

Even the Rodney King beaters got off, so it is not localized to NYC, but a part of our institutional sickness, where cronyism outdoes right, and justice , all day, every day.

Why do you keep saying things like that? Most of the time it isn't so.

Fear, for saying things that go against the popular grain, or could be seen as controversial, like trashing law enforcement officers.

My own recognition that my opinion is not popular is another reason.

Trashing the police is not a safe stance Steve, I am just bracing myself when I say things like that.:salute:

Yes, your policy is much more effecient than ours.

A Swedish example: the 16-year olds Diar Mahmoud and Hasan Kibar assault a pensioner in Kortedala, Gothenburg, punching him until he falls and showering him with kicks while he's lying down. The pensioner has become blind on one eye and suffers from memory loss from brain damage caused by the assault. Kibar and Mahmoud receives a sentence of 140 hours community service (http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1....t-ar-konstigt-).

A Danish example: Three 16-year-olds rob a 15 year-old, taking his phone (http://www.sydsvenskan.se/varlden/da...os-ransiffror/). Two of the robbers get 6 months imprisonment, the 3rd one gets 2,5 years in prison, and will be kicked out of the country and is banned from Denmark for life.

The result? When Malmö had >900 robberies, Copenhagen had only 400. And Malmö has a population of only 330000, less than half the population of Copenhagen.

The article about Malmö vs Copenhagen also states that 79% of Copenhagen's youth criminals are immigrants. Statistics for Sweden are kept secret (guess what that means...). So, the majority of immigrants aren't criminals, but the majority of criminals are immigrants.

Ah, gotcha. I thought you were referring to getting into trouble officially. Well, catching grief from fellow members for having an opinion is a GT hazard, one we all face from time to time. :sunny:

It says that I'm i Denmark, but I'm a swede

Så jag vet hur flyktingspolitiken fungerar i mitt gamla hemland=(so I know how our imigrations politics works in my old country)

Markus

I kinda like the grief, I have a belief that the greatest thinkers were ones who went against the grain.

Ya know, like Oppenhiemer, Einstein, Enrico Fermi, soopaman2, all geniuses who worked against the grain for positive results.:timeout::haha::yeah:

(all but one worked on the nuclear bomb) lol

True, but with one exception I bet not one of them ever said "I know I'm gonna get grief for this, but..." :O:

I'm currently reading a book titled The Copernican Revolution, about Copernicus, obviously, and the impact he had on the way we look at the univers.e

Du menar hur flyktingpolitiken inte fungerar?

That's what I meant
We don't have any politics in that field.

Markus

1) Hungry wolves overrun European towns ...

In Paris
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22520329

In London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468

In Stockholm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10276738

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2) Hungry wolves overrun a Siberian town.

In Verkhoyansk
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...e-russian-town

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I prefer these wolves : they seem to be more "human" or social ...

Cheers.

So you have.
1. local football hooligans
2. a pair of nuts
3. inner city riots

So is it....
A) beware the wolves overrunning europe.
B) business as normal.
History suggests that B is the only answer.

Please confirm me only this: a newspaper here reported that the person shoot by the sweden police was portuguese, named Lenine Relvas-Martins (:haha:), emigrant and living in Sweden since 1975!
If so, I only want to say that: there is always a portuguese anywhere!

Very sad times indeed.

I've always despised political correctness and all the virtue words that are used to try and make it sound better when it shouldn't, its a very annoying form of propaganda. It really gets on my nerves how incredibly sensitive people act (yes, act) to further their ideas. When the illegal immigrants began pouring into this country, and were being labeled correctly as illegal immigrants, they tried to omit the truth in the label by saying "undocumented". You aren't undocumented, because that would imply that you've already begun the process of becoming a citizen or have already gone through the process and are waiting on documentation, when instead many are just coming, illegally, and not attempting to gain citizenship.

Political correctness is revolting and sad for such a "liberated media", one thats supposed to be the most open media in modern times, when really they curtail so readily to societal discomfort and political correctness.

That's what leftist liberals do in America - they create social disorder and civil unrest to grow the size of government to tyrannical proportions to handle these problems it created. Then the government comes in and pours fuel on the fire to make matters worse thereby validating itself as needing to grow even more to get control over the issue(s). Leftist liberals do this because they trust government and feel safe having a big government controlling the population. Conservative governments look to shrink the size of government and to allow the people to govern themselves on a much smaller scale which gives people the sense they have control over the federal government. The people of America didn't want Obamacare. It was rejected but that wicked witch from the west, Nancy Pelosi, flew on her broom to D.C. to ram it down America's throat - not knowing what the hell was even in the bill. Now it's become law and most still don't have a clue what's in the bill and all Obama can say is we will deal with the issues as they arise. Well that's too late bozo - especially when someone's a cancer patient with a few months to live and doesn't have time for Washington to fart around with correcting the problems in the bill. But does Obama care about that? Nope. He only cares that 30 million deadbeats and illegals in America have access to free medical care at the cost of the tax payers.

http://i.imgur.com/9KmWYI6.jpg
Pretty good.

Our news are shining again, that is can't decide what they want to say. The riots continue, but apparently now it's the far right causing trouble in there. Uh, what? :doh: