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Jimbuna 05-03-13 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2050555)
That is one of the situtations that terrifies me most about flying in large airliners, if it stalls under 4000 feet or so and you're done for. :(

Don't go saying that, I'm flying in a few weeks time :o

JU_88 05-03-13 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2050560)
:-?

From what I hear you can't actually stall one of those aircraft on purpose. The computers won't allow you to get to the maximum angle of attack (people with more knowledge might confirm/correct me).

Not sure about that one, but in most cases when there is a 'stall' something (usually mechanically) has to go badly wrong first so neither pilot or computer can do much to prevent it.
e.g jammed elevator, engine faliure or anything else where the end result is that airspeed gets reduced to the point where the aircraft is effectivley 'dead weight'.

Julhelm 05-03-13 05:41 AM

Actually you can stall even FBW aircraft which is what happened to that Air France flight that went down in the South Atlantic a few years ago.

JU_88 05-03-13 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2050577)
Don't go saying that, I'm flying in a few weeks time :o

The odds of dying in a plane crash are supposedly about 1 in 22.8 Million, where as its estimated that someone dies in a car accident every 12 minutes ...
So I think you should be fine Jim :up:

Oberon 05-03-13 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2050577)
Don't go saying that, I'm flying in a few weeks time :o

Funny you should say that, they've booked me to pilot a flight to Turkey around then.... :hmmm::haha:

Jimbuna 05-03-13 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2050592)
The odds of dying in a plane crash are supposedly about 1 in 22.8 Million, where as its estimated that someone dies in a car accident every 12 minutes ...
So I think you should be fine Jim :up:

Aye but more people survive car crashes than those involved in plane crashes :)

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2050593)
Funny you should say that, they've booked me to pilot a flight to Turkey around then.... :hmmm::haha:

In that case I'll have the seat that's on top of the black box :)

Herr-Berbunch 05-03-13 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Julhelm (Post 2050589)
Actually you can stall even FBW aircraft which is what happened to that Air France flight that went down in the South Atlantic a few years ago.

That's what you get when you think you know better than the aircraft systems. Unfortunately that wasn't the only crew to either fight with each other (controls, not literally), or to keep pulling back despite the stall warnings.

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2050592)
The odds of dying in a plane crash are supposedly about 1 in 22.8 Million, where as its estimated that someone dies in a car accident every 12 minutes ...
So I think you should be fine Jim :up:

Jim is now setting off to get to the airport on foot. :haha:

Jimbuna 05-03-13 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2050694)


Jim is now setting off to get to the airport on foot. :haha:

Tis 16 miles...would kill me now :)

Dowly 05-03-13 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2050700)
Tis 16 miles...would kill me now :)

Better ease off the spam and start exercising then. :yep:

Synthfg 05-03-13 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2050584)
Not sure about that one, but in most cases when there is a 'stall' something (usually mechanically) has to go badly wrong first so neither pilot or computer can do much to prevent it.
e.g jammed elevator, engine faliure or anything else where the end result is that airspeed gets reduced to the point where the aircraft is effectivley 'dead weight'.

That one looks like the cargo has shifted down to the tail, guessing something wasn't properly secured and with the steep climb out to avoid possible ground fire, it went crashing back, taking other stuff with it.

The sudden shift in weight made the stall inevitable and recovery impossible

Jimbuna 05-03-13 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2050724)
Better ease off the spam and start exercising then. :yep:

Not feeling the love here.


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