I think the truthers claim of a missile hitting something was actually the Pentagon. Not the WTC tower. Those were demoed for the insurance money and to steal the precious metal bullion locked up in the basement vaults. It's kind of funny that the NTSB was waved off the site of two plane crashes and all the evidence at the crime scene was quickly swept up and hauled to the dump by a company that specializes in dropping buildings in their own footprints.:hmmm:

Oh Christ not this again.

I wasn't thinking about that when I posted it


Markus

We're going to prop your eyelids open with toothpicks and make you read this thread.:03::haha: NOT

No, but you all are going to keep saturating the forum with conspiracy talk, right?

You are right.
It called for the CIA or another secret agency to perform the action, but was written by the Department of Defense (DoD), and authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then rejected by the Kennedy Administration.
Sry, should at least get the facts right :oops:
Catfish

Nope. I've said my piece and will depart,:cool: incognito.

I hope against all hope.

Takeda, I get that you are not a fan of Conspiricy stuff which is fair enough, but doesn't 'General topics' mean anything goes so long as it is in line with Subsims rules?
I dont see why its such a problem for people to discuss this sort of thing if they want to, and/or ignore it if they dont.
If a topic is unpopular it will die of natural causes because no ones wants to participate. It really doesnt need to be policed.
You yourself have been adding a fair bit of fuel to the fire here, condsidering this is a topic you want sunk. Rather counter productive if you ask me.

Because if you ignore it, then it becomes commonplace. And then you see what we have today; a forum that is saturated with it. No, being silent and keeping your eyes on the ground is not the way to deal with this sort of thing. It's all about what kind of forum you want to have and having your voice heard. Don't let a minority run everyone else off.

Ok, but I must admit that Im really not seeing this saturation you talk about....sorry.

Really? You're not seeing the talk about government conspiracy, "manufactured reality", drone attacks against citizens and whatnot in threads up and down the front page? It's in virtually every discussion thread here. It's pervasive.

Im seeing the odd post here and there, usually from the same people (who can be counted on one hand more or less)
But it tends to be best contained when its either ignored or humoured, but when it gets a seriouse response, then it can go on and on.

If you truley believe it is such a problem, I would suggest making a simple poll along the lines of, "Should conspiricy therory discussion be banned from GT?"
Poll choices: yes/ No /Dont care.
Depending on the results, you can take it to Neal and request that conspiricy talk be banned from GT, or maybe have it relocated to a sub-forum of sorts.

Because I think there are a few problems with your current approach of stamping on each post or poster you encounter.
1) Its a crusade you will probably never win.
2) It only bumps the topics up and invites further discussion in them.
3) Its not abundantly clear if you are acting in the best intreast of the majority (fine) or just doing it because you personally dont approve of it(not so fine)
4) It comes accross as slightly bully-ish which doesn't reflect so well on you. (even if and when you are in the right)

Just my 2 cents - take it or leave it.

By myself, no. Together, yes we can change things.

For that thread, yes. For future threads, no. It's about the long term.

That's why we can decide to take a stand as a community. No one man does it alone. Right now, just letting people run hog wild isn't working. You don't troll them. You don't violate any rules. You just let your voice be heard. Silence doesn't do that.

I'm not a moderator.

You used to be moderator , or at least i thought you were once - so my bad.

Yes 'we' can change things, but reason I suggested a poll is to establish exactly who 'we' is first...
You'd be better off making a considerate case to change the rules, rather than trying to bull doze though some kind of ettiquette though flame wars.

Why? That technique seems to work for the other side. Why do I have to play nice when others are not bound by those same rules? Why are said rules not uniformly enforced?

How are they not playing nice? and which rules specifically?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=326

Why is August able to troll like that? Other members would have gotten the ol' mod smack down. Not him, though.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=488

Why does Skybird get to tell people to go shoot themselves? Imagine if that was Tribesman.

And there are dozens of other examples of this sort of favoritism on the first page alone. It's wrong.

Most of my time in the past couple of days has been spent keeping up to speed in the GT section and I am adamant there will be no flame wars here and said rules/ettiquette WILL be uniformly expected of ALL participants who post here.

On that you have my word.

Okay...whilst typing a response there have been numerous post exchanges but trust me...GT will be a level playing field if I have anything to do with it.

The SubSim community members expect nothing less and as long as I'm a member here I will do my honest best to ensure everyone is treated equitably.