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Schroeder 05-01-13 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2049903)
Only time will tell if the club have made the right decision and as for "And the Englishmen must watch"....there will be a squadron of Spitfires on CAP to ensure you don't go for a third attempt :O:

I guess these will be the only Spitfires near the stadium:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...6139393739.jpg


:D

Jimbuna 05-01-13 04:41 PM

Well if I had my way....yes :)

BossMark 05-02-13 01:17 AM

So the Germans Finally get their wish..................

Jimbuna 05-02-13 01:25 PM

Let em all in Wembley then lock the gates and whip over to there place and drink all the beer :)

Feuer Frei! 05-03-13 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2049475)
one of the best fotball team in Germany right now.

Not just in Germany but in Europe.

Dan D 05-04-13 06:22 PM

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one of the best fotball team in Germany right now.
Not just in Germany but in Europe.

Yea, true that. "Prussia" Dortmund from Westphalia will beat the nancies from Bavaria.
Drop your leather pants.:arrgh!:

mapuc 05-04-13 06:51 PM

May the best team win

TarJak 05-04-13 07:00 PM

I've got an alternative venue if it rains

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...0-%2525201.jpg:O:

Best of luck to both teams.

Jimbuna 05-05-13 05:12 AM

Heard a rumour tickets aren't selling very well and UEFA are currently in detailed negotiations with 'Rentacrowd Ltd' :hmmm:

Penguin 05-06-13 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan D (Post 2051493)
Yea, true that. "Prussia" Dortmund from Westphalia will beat the nancies from Bavaria.

Like the 1:1 victory against Bayern last Saturday? :O:


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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2051622)
Heard a rumour tickets aren't selling very well and UEFA are currently in detailed negotiations with 'Rentacrowd Ltd' :hmmm:

Well, at least Podolski will probably visit.

Skybird 05-25-13 06:48 PM

Wonderful evening. The stadium all red and yellow. Looked like Manchester playing Dortmund. :) Munich defeats Dortmund in a very tight, very intense and fast-paced match of highest quality level. A very worthy final, the best since several years, I'd say.

The first 25 minutes were Dortmund's: they started like rockets and played Munich against the wall, as if there was no day after to come. Then, paying tribute to the very fast pace, they had to taker some breath, and the remaining 20 minutes of first half saw Munich equalizing the statistical scores for first half, but still no goals.

The duel was tight in the second half also. Dortmund scored its goal via penlty, Munich scored both goals from the running game. I think it was clear that Munich would not be able to shoot Dortmund out of the stadium like they did with Barcelona, Dortmund is a much stronger team currently, with great individual players, and very strong team cohesion - like the Bavarians as well. I think it is fair to say that at this moment, these two teams indeed are the best two teams in Europe. I think they could cope with most of the prominent national teams, too.

It also was a duel of the goalies, who both had many opportunities to shine with fantastic parades.

Very great match. If you haven't seen it, I think you really missed something, sorry.

Munich now heads for the saturday's national cup finals against Stuttgart. I have little doubt that they will complete the maximum triple triumph possible in a season. But for today, the Bundesliga left a very, very strong message in dear old England, ID' say.

Add to this compliment that the Bundesliga is much more economically solid and financially healthy than the other European football leagues.

Guardiola will take over a very heavy burden. In principle he cannot make anything better than Heynckes, he can only hold the team on the current level. With the risk of doing changes that work to the weakening of the team. Improving Munich's current standard? How...?

Götze is coming to Munich, rumour says Lewandowski is heading for Munich, too. Two heavy losses for the BVB, two gains for the FC.

Rhodes 05-25-13 08:20 PM

Saw the final half-hour, good game! By the way, so the european super-cup will be Gardiola vs Mourinho? :o

Catfish 05-26-13 06:22 AM

Generally saying, in Germany Bayern-Munich is 'accepted' when playing against other international teams, however if it plays against other german teams a lot of germans loathe them.

Bayern-Munich is the most rich club of all, and they just buy the best players, which are often being described as a bunch of mercenaries. I know this is business as usual in international clubs by now, but additonally the management and the whole policy of this club can be at least be described as arrogant and very unsympathetic.

And the president is currently under accusation of defraudation of the venue, and would have been imprisoned - weren't he the president of said cub, and being able to pay a hefty caution. He belongs to the 'elite' after all. To see him hold the cup after the match .. :dead:

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

Skybird 05-26-13 07:10 AM

Economically Munich does what every other club does if he wants to be competitive and is acting by his senses. It's not that they buy their success with child work or such thing. So what do you mean when saying they "just" buy the best players? Every club buys the best players he can afford.

Economically, the Bundesliga is an example to follow for all other national leagues in Europe. Especially when comparing with the negative headlines you get from Spain, Italy, and the problems with the clubs in England who get financed by rich foreign oligarchs only, without having a comparable economical health like Bundesliga clubs. Different to other leagues, the Bundesliga is not that much subsidized by external playboys wanting to own their own toy-club. Some things in how TV fees are distributed could be changed, away from treating these as performance-bound boni and instead paying every 1st league club 1/18 of the general pot (like it was in the past).

I certainly do not want the competition in the Bundesliga getting regulated and "inferior" competitors getting subsidized.

Regarding the sports, the Bavarians simply are very very good at the moment, like the BVB as well. Both would have deserved to win the match. But to loose the third final in four years is something that I do not wish any team, so my sympathies in the final were with Munich. Beyond that I would have felt okay even if Dortmund would have won - it was a fantastic match by both teams and practically all players. Read the international Pressespiegel in one of the published media in germany: the greatness of both teams and the current superiority of the Bundesliga in Europe gets recognised in practically all countries.

It seems to me then that both the league and Munich make some things the right way then.

Jimbuna 05-26-13 09:15 AM

A most enjoyable game and Bayern wore worthy winners in the end.

I'm wondering if it was still drawn after 90 minutes which of the two might have been the fittest to go on and win in extra time.

Skybird 05-26-13 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2062962)
A most enjoyable game and Bayern wore worthy winners in the end.

I'm wondering if it was still drawn after 90 minutes which of the two might have been the fittest to go on and win in extra time.

Probably Munich, that is consensus amongst commentators here. Their reserve bank is very strongly crewed, and they are claimed to play the most physical or athletic style in the league currently. You also could see it in yesterday's match: the longer it lasted, the more their physical fitness helped them to start dominating - and who would have thought that after the furious start by Dortmund in the first 20, 25 minutes?

The vulnerability of theirs in overtime maybe would have been nerves. They have lost two finals in three years. Nobody can avoid to have that on his mind when the penalty shooting looms at the horizon.

Jimbuna 05-26-13 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2062968)
Probably Munich, that is consensus amongst commentators here. Their reserve bank is very strongly crewed, and they are claimed to play the most physical or athletic style in the league currently. You also could see it in yesterday's match: the longer it lasted, the more their physical fitness helped them to start dominating - and who would have thought that after the furious start by Dortmund in the first 20, 25 minutes?

The vulnerability of theirs in overtime maybe would have been nerves. They have lost two finals in three years. Nobody can avoid to have that on his mind when the penalty shooting looms at the horizon.

That's the point I was intending to make....would fitness levels override nerves :yep:

Skybird 05-29-13 06:07 PM

Munich now is the world's most valuable football club, taking over the top ranking from Manchester United.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22704180

And this evening, I have not seen it, German national B-team played against Ecuador, in America. 4:2. Germany scored the first goal - after 6 seconds of play :timeout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li4n4kvj4vM

And third: a poll shows that 80% of Germans interested in football would prefer Heynckes over Löw as coach of the national team. I am currently shifting in my opinion on Löw, since I had to realise since some time that he has tailored all and everything in and around the national tam to focus on himself and his decisions, with all staff being turned into supernumeraries - to a wider degree then I would say is healthy for the team interest anymore. There are conflicts around the national team, and I fear that Löw will make sure with his approach that once again Germany will die most beautifully at the next major tournament - and the golden generation we were assuming to have since the tournament in Germany then being eaten up and burnt.

Jimbuna 05-30-13 08:29 AM

Honestly never been all that interested in Man Utd but of far more interest to me is the overall picture...

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But it added that Germany's Bundesliga was still second to the Premier League in brand value terms.
Premier League club brands have a combined value of $3.1bn, the research suggested, well ahead of the $1.9bn combined value of Bundesliga teams.

Skybird 05-30-13 09:33 AM

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"The commercial transformation of the English game, which has created hugely successful global brands, had been seen as the model to emulate," he said.

"However the escalation of player wages, poor financial management and alienation of grass roots fans has left many people jaded.

"In contrast the cheap tickets, high attendances, democratic ownership structure and financial prudence of the Bundesliga now looks like an attractive alternative, particularly now it is delivering world-beating, fluid football rather than the more workmanlike style German teams had been known for."

:woot:

The Premier League is heavily "subsidized" by toy-owners from far away exotic countries. The economic basis of the Bundesliga is much more solid and healthy. It would survive a retreat of external spenders, and has a more massive fundament, so to speak. Not in total money, but in economical structure.


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