:)

Surprisingly enough it's not a new concept.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...HSqBV3YBsRKI1g

@RedOctober you cant even carry your knife to school anyway much less on an airplane.

If you must have a larger knife with you on your trip put it in your checked luggage once you leave the airport put it on your person but of course be aware of the laws in that area in some places it is illegal to carry a knife.In some states an auto open knife is illegal.Your looks like the kind that you flip open with your thumb though not truly a "switch blade".

I carry a PK every where I go, have since I was 15. Heck, when I was in school we all carried buck knives in a belt case, had guns on our racks in the parking lot, etc.

What I'm trying to say is, is it really a good idea to allow knifes on board after 9/11?

If anyone can bring a knife of sorts onto a plane, that also includes possibly terrorists,
and not just terrorists, but people who might be unstable. Why take that risk factor?

Few have mentioned the brave action onboard United 93, but really, if a terrorist
or terrorists, want to kill Americans, they can just take a few knives, get their
way to the cockpit and either fly to a target or crash if the passengers try to something.

I know cockpits are locked, but can the crew handle it, if the hijackers start
killing people, unless they can get access to the cockpit? Maybe, maybe not.

Any way I watch at the decision, I see the *possibility* that something goes wrong and an unnecessary risk.

I'm just trying to understand what is the point of allowing knifes onto planes, that's all. Because I cant come up with any reason. :06:

Call that a knife, this is a knife...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4

I'll see yer knife with a:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhlHzYt4xRM

Because they confiscate dozens of jack knifes every day for no good reason. Nobody will be able to take control of an aircraft with a box cutter let alone a Swiss army knife ever again. The 911 hijackers only got away with it because people thought it was a hostage situation.

United 93 crashed because passengers realized what was in store for them but only after the terrorists had already taken control of the plane. Were that to happen again today they would never make it to the cockpit door without being gang tackled by a hundred scared and pissed off passengers.

Dowly,

Well, there are two philosophies about this

1. Everything is prohibited unless permitted. Meaning that in order to do something, I need to justify it. This is the position you took in wording your question

2. Everything is permitted unless prohibited. Meaning that there needs to be justification for why something should not be done.

Which philosophy is correct? They both are, depending on the population and the circumstances.

In my opinion, philosophy 2 should apply to citizens. I should be able to do anything I want, unless there is a law/regulation prohibiting it. Citizens don't need to justify why they want to do something, the government must justify why the citizen should not be allowed to do it.

Philosophy 1 should apply to governments. The government should only be permitted to do stuff they are specifically authorized. If the government wants to do more, it has to justify why.

In your knife instance, I should be able to carry a knife, without justification. It is up to the government to specifically justify why I should not be allowed to carry a knife.

That's the difference. In your view, I need to justify why I should. In my view the government needs to justify why I can't.

Uh oh, probably airlines cutting back on supplying eating utensils. You might want to bring your fork along also. :D

5 terrorists with machetes would be unable to take control of an aircraft with a 100 passengers. People don't think: lets just sit this one out and they'll go away anymore

I gues mine's right out then.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...Steve/Buck.jpg

In the past aircraft in American were hijacked because somebody wanted to go to Cuba or the like. It was considered safer to just play along. Then people tried hijacking planes for ransom, demanding money. Again, it was better to let them do it. No one was harmed and it was a job for the authorities.

This took everybody by surprise. The passengers and crew almost certainly thought it was safest to just let the hijackers have their way, and no one would be hurt.

This was a new thing and it changed everything.

Since were all showing off their knives :O:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...07096270_n.jpg

Straight out of my cutlery drawer :)

Only the ones we carry around with us all the time. I've got a big one too, but it stays at home.

The blue Victorinox at the top :03:

Exactly. A game changer as they say. Passengers are a lot more likely to intervene if they see something start to go down.

I have one of those Gerber Machetes better as a tool than a weapon though one whack and it could get stuck.Now against one person it would work.

If you like Machetes a Kurki would be best as a weapon.

Platapus is wise... :yep:

The Smith and Wesson knife that I have there is spring assisted. Switchblades are illegal in Missouri and this is as close as you can legally get.

I carry it randomly around. I don't carry it to school but I have around town numerous times. Now there was a time when I forgot I had it in my coat pocket and I had it at school but it didn't leave that pocket all day.

That was the one that I carry around. I've got tons of other knives...Hunting Knives, Pocketknives, and some homemade ones from a family member.

I don't have a machete....yet.....