Yes, you are absolutely right; it was better than nothing. This was the guiding principle behind it's invention as well. It was designed during the advent of the modern era of warfare as a weapon of last resort for single-shot firearms, thus turning the rifle into an impromptu polearm. Of course, it suffererd from the same problem that all polearms do; they had limited range of motion and they functioned best when used in groups. This is why soldiers that carried these firearms, like the committed polearm soldiers, carried a sword until the firearm technology advanced to give soldiers a faster-loading weapon.

To be honest, I didn't see the real purpose behind your remarks given that the thread was about personal defense, and not battlefield combat, but I was more or less carrying through with the discussion to be polite.

You come across as a person that it is hard to openly discuss certain topics with to put it in polite way.

I'll keep my opinion on you to myself. Now let's have the two of us stop hijacking this thread.

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88G...SE_MESSER.aspx

For those times when a bayonet is not enough, that AR gets too expensive to feed and your inner Conan is crying to be let loose. :up:

That would be a step in the right direction. Very effective outdoors, but much less so in narrow rooms and hallways, as well as with ceilings lower than 10 feet. Of course, with the price of $339 US, one would have to wonder about the actual quality of the piece. :hmmm:

Watch the videos of the fat guy slicing up stuff - metal looks to be adequate for the job, I guess.

But, for the sword to enter AR / True Operator territory, it needs picatinny rails.

Since the subject came up, some may find this interesting.

Judo Bayonet Fighting

Personally, im putting a bayonet lug on my rifle for historical reasons (as an appreciation for the last wood and steel battle rifle), and because i have the utmost respect for certain politicians who label things as "evil features", some of which were never used in any crime I have ever heard of - ever.

It isn't usually the blade, but the hilt that will fail. While the blade looks nice, the close-ups of the hilt and guard show it to be rather cheaply made.

Compare it with a similar bastard sword, which retains the simple non-museum design and yet features a higher quality (at about twice the price, too):

http://www.armor.com/sword195.html

Nice.

Piffle on the edged stuff; I want a http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-543-bar-mace.aspx

And for what it is worth, I've seen the AK crowd is starting to get their fashion accessories as well - soon they'll be totin' all sorts of crap on their rifles too!

:haha:

Get yourself a horse and you'll be playing polo with heads.

Covered...

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/9121/qwedje213.jpg

Although, one is a 74.:03:

Bulgarian AK74

And

Hungarian AK47

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ry/1572491.jpg

This has always been my fav AK, the one's the Russian cops carry. Never shot one though.

Now a Krinkov SBR slinging 5.56 is something I can get behind!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...rinkov-pistol/

And I quote Ruby Rhod here,"Hot! Hot! HOT!!"

p.s. Yes. I know they are talking about a pistol version but its just a hop, skip, jump, $200, and paperwork to make it an SBR.

Yep, top one is a Bulgy TGI build where I replaced the original furniture with plum KVAR stuff, and the bottom is a Hungarian kit.

So how can you tell that?:hmmm:

The Hungarian AKs have the unique shape to the grips. The majority of AK-74s in the US are from Bulgaria so you can take an educated guess.The plum is the higher quality kit a Bulgarian stock usually will have a greenish color to it.Actually it is all very technical most AK's are actually military surplus that have been re-manufactured to be semi auto only they are then shipped to the US in sections and put back together in the US this has to do with firearms import laws.

Now you can find some old Chinese AKs and also Egyptian Misirs that where originally shipped to the US in the 1970's to early 80's (pre 1988 assault weapons ban) and sold as a solid unit and not put together in US factory.Any "new" AK though is technically produced in the US put together at a factory or sold to you in parts that you build yourself.The quality can be horrible some times so it is better to buy the parts and make it yourself or have a gunsmith do it for you.This is not to cheat the laws but to reduce costs a firearm produced 100% outside the US erans a higher tariff than one that comes in parts that is finished inside the US.