Okay. This is purely a What If question...

What if this gun control pitches the US into a Second American Revolution? :hmmm:

This is the core of the gun conrol problem.

It effects people like me and you, who went through the courses, and the vetting to own a weapon.


Rather than Juan and Tyrone, who buy them out of a car trunk.

New Yorks new assault weapon ban has more rules than auschwitz, Usually anything New York spawns, Jersey adopts within a year (see the no smoking in bars thing)


All gun control does is take the weapons from people who have owned guns, and used them responsibly, and turn us into potential victims.

You think a thug cares about the law, when he is selecting a handgun? The law as it is, only hurts those who follow it.

Look around the inner city of your locale, and see what I mean. The criminals are armed to the teeth, Bloods, Crips, MS13 etc...

But all that seems to be legislated is vetted and legal gun owners.

Ohhhh, it is rascist to address anything thing the inner cities do anymore? Easier to kick around the guy who kills paper targets, rather than the Thuglet who kills people. Chicago? My kinda town, 300 plus black youths laid out by illegal guns last year, yet, Newtown spawns hate on legal owners, like nothing before.

White kids die=people finally decide to get mad, and be activists.

edit: Look at worldstarhiphop.com. look at those videos, they got guns, and flash them in broad daylight, no cop even shows up, even as they shoot into the air, why am I a villain?

I own a gunsafe, my crap is locked up, and legal.

Sorry that is simply racist to be honest as if there are no white criminals running around with illegal weapons.Of people I know that have had guns stolen it was most often a white boy that had stolen them.Two of my class mates got a ten year ride for stealing several grand in firearms during a robbery spree they where both white.

I see a criminal not a race.

It wont (at least I certainly hope not for all your sakes) but if it did I think I'd hedge my bets on the side that is equipped with drones, out of the millions of armed citizens, how many would be ready to take up arms against the frederal government? maybe a few thousand? ... Thats not a revolution, just a mass sucide :oops:
Things have to be rock bottom before you get to a civil uprising, America has had better days yes, but its surely no where near 'revolution' conditions. Look at what dire straights the Greeks are in right now, sure they started a few fires and threw some rocks, but most are still playing ball.

Few are truly that hard core most are all talk.99% percent of humans will do what they are told.

Then take a walk around Long Branch, Patterson, Newark, Asbury Park, Jersey City, Elizabeth NJ.

Go alone.

I speak on what I see, and the problem is not the legal owners.

Call it what you want.

You are wrong. I'd estimate that less than a quarter of the standing US Military and less than a 10th of National Guard would support an Administration that ordered it to attack Americans.

Didn't already have a thread about the dope problem?

Good luck disarming the Western US, Texas. Where can I volunteer for this job?:dead:

RFID chips would work bestest if it also identified the weapon. Then I could hack in to the system and find out who I should rob to steal the gun I want.

Of course, some might thing it is better NOT to make it easier for criminals to illegally acquire guns.

I'm not saying that it's gonna happen....(Something violent will happen though) but if it comes to that....

I feel sorry for the man who comes to take our guns... :stare:

I can see it now....it'll look like Zombieland without zombies... :shifty:

You are talking about areas where most of the folks are not white so by default the criminals wont be either.Where I live most people are either white of hispanic therefore most of the criminals will be one of these races that does not mean that all white people are bad nor that all hispanics are either.

So you have seen a man named Tyrone that was black and a man named Juan that was latio walk up to a car open the trunk and buy an illegal firearm i very highly doubt it unless you where the one selling or your an ATF agent.

Nope, you just have to drive by. Must be nice in your candy land world.

There are criminals in every race. Then again there are Black men named Juan and White men named Tyrone and Asian men named William. The bottom line is that this isn't about the color of a mans skin. Gun control threatens all Americans regardless of race.

I wonder if you would still think like that if it would have been your own daughter or your own wife that had been killed in these dramatic events. :hmmm:

I'm sorry if you lost somebody in the shootings, but Gun Control is a horrible horrible thing. It DOES threaten all Americans. It will cause more shootings than you realize.

For the record, I never gave the race of tyrone or juan, that was crammed in my mouth,

See my comment how you see it, but the people that suffer are the guys who went through courses, and massive paperwork to own like me and others, not the gangbanging, drug dealers, or in the case of most mass shooters, live at home with mommy crackers.

Except that the reality is that the rate of black homicide is about 10X that for non-hispanic whites (US federal crime stats). The vast majority of black homicides are with african-americans as the perp and the victim, BTW. Whites almost never kill blacks (you hear about most as "hate crimes" though the larger % the other way around are just another day at the office).

Subtract non-asian minorities in the US, and the gun violence rate (note that the stats are by the race of the victim)is high by european standards, partially because minority on non-minority killings skew the average. Still, it is high like, say, Finland. High, but not outrageously high like the near 40:100,000 rate of gun deaths for blacks.

Newtown was terrible, but none of the current or proposed gun control legislation would have stopped it. If you magically made guns go away, a 20-something YO male could kill nearly as many with a KNIFE (a guy a year or two ago in the PRC did just that, and another recently wounded as many there). On top of that, a smart nut like the Newtown whacko could use google, then make a car or truck bomb out of common goods.

The solution to gun violence in the US is largely cultural, and related to mexicans and blacks, a fair bit as gang violence (at 10X the rate, the white rate is in effect nearly noise). For nut shootings like Aurora, Newtown, etc, it's a mental health issue, and since some severe mental illness presents in the teens and 20s commonly, the first warning (from a legal standpoint of the government knowing there is a problem) might be the attack.

That's an emotional argument, which results in the emotional cry for "gun control." It is ineffective. Lower gun violence rates in other cultures are cultural, not gun control related. Remove the offending culture if you want...

No, not at all, it's just that we never realize it (be it a disease, or a shooting) until it really happens to us.

The key thing here is that we never really care when it happens to other people in other cities, it's never a severe problem until it reaches us and we get struck real hard by reality. :timeout: