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Stealhead 12-14-12 03:32 PM

According to one of the news networks the attacker "was not a stranger" to the school not sure what that means,former employee,volunteer something of this nature.

It was only one person and he either killed himself or the police did right now they just say dead at the scene.

Spike88 12-14-12 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1975727)
According to one of the news networks the attacker "was not a stranger" to the school not sure what that means,former employee,volunteer something of this nature.

It was only one person and he either killed himself or the police did right now they just say dead at the scene.

From what I read the First shooter was the son of the teacher in the classroom.

He walked in and shot his mother, and then opened fire on the class. :nope:

eddie 12-14-12 03:47 PM

The shooter was the son of one of the teachers there, of course he had to shoot his mom then started shooting everyone else. At least he is dead.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...nnecticut?lite

I think the reporters ask the most ignorant questions sometimes, they were talking to a parent, and they asked him what he was thinking as he raced to the school to find out if his daughter was ok (she was thank god)

WTH do you think he was thinking about!?! About stopping and getting a burger on the way!?!:88)

AVGWarhawk 12-14-12 03:52 PM

I agree eddie, some reporters just ask the most dumb questions. I believe the guns were registered to his mother. I also heard he shot his father as well.

Spike88 12-14-12 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1975741)
I agree eddie, some reporters just ask the most dumb questions. I believe the guns were registered to his mother. I also heard he shot his father as well.

I can somewhat understand killing his parents if they had done something wrong to him, but there is no way that those kids in the school did anything wrong to him. It's time's like these I hope there is a Hell, so people like this can rot for an eternity in it.

BossMark 12-14-12 04:10 PM

How easy it to obtain a rifle of that calibre that bastard used, I mean is that easy that while you are out doing your weekly shopping you think "ah I think I will add a assault rifle to my shopping list this week". Because hardly a month goes by without some maniac going on a killing spree in the States.

eddie 12-14-12 04:18 PM

This picture says it all I think, about what happened today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psa0ba5311.jpg

TarJak 12-14-12 04:18 PM

Sad sad news.:nope:

Oberon 12-14-12 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1975749)
How easy it to obtain a rifle of that calibre that bastard used, I mean is that easy that while you are out doing your weekly shopping you think "ah I think I will add a assault rifle to my shopping list this week". Because hardly a month goes by without some maniac going on a killing spree in the States.

The problem sometimes lies, not with the shops providing access to assault rifles, but the parents not securing said rifle enough. In this instance it is alleged that the rifle was registered to the gunmans mother, who no doubt went through a fairly strict routine to gain access to it, but it was not her who conducted the shooting spree.

Furthermore, unless you are able to telepathically read a persons mind, then it's quite possible to fib your way through a gun permit test, and get your gun.

Besides, even if they reban Assault rifles, it's not going to stop people using pistols for these kind of rampages, it might lower the body count a little but it won't stop it from happening. Even if you ban guns altogether, the proliferation of weapons in America means that the old saying regarding catapults will come into effect (if you outlaw catapults, only outlaws will have catapults).

EDIT: Oh, and not to make light of this, but someone should start the stopwatch until a media outlet reports that this gunman liked to play Call of Duty or some other FPS. Wait...just wait...

u crank 12-14-12 04:22 PM

I don't know what to say. Saw it on a TV at the bank on the way home. So sad.

Armistead 12-14-12 04:26 PM

So many rumors.

CNN said it was a Ryan Lanza, even posted his picture, but Fox reports it was Adam Lanza. Someone did post SS of Ryan's FB where he was stating it wasn't him, he was at work and cussing CNN for posting his picture. Not sure same family.

Who knows, gonna be a mess and a day or so before we know the truth.

Armistead 12-14-12 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1975755)
The problem sometimes lies, not with the shops providing access to assault rifles, but the parents not securing said rifle enough. In this instance it is alleged that the rifle was registered to the gunmans mother, who no doubt went through a fairly strict routine to gain access to it, but it was not her who conducted the shooting spree.

Furthermore, unless you are able to telepathically read a persons mind, then it's quite possible to fib your way through a gun permit test, and get your gun.

Besides, even if they reban Assault rifles, it's not going to stop people using pistols for these kind of rampages, it might lower the body count a little but it won't stop it from happening. Even if you ban guns altogether, the proliferation of weapons in America means that the old saying regarding catapults will come into effect (if you outlaw catapults, only outlaws will have catapults).

EDIT: Oh, and not to make light of this, but someone should start the stopwatch until a media outlet reports that this gunman liked to play Call of Duty or some other FPS. Wait...just wait...

Agreed.

Here is the Bushmaster 223, reported gun used, but comes in different versions, certainly not a hunting rifle per say. 30 round mag....
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.49202...h=143&c=7&rs=1

Stealhead 12-14-12 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1975755)
The problem sometimes lies, not with the shops providing access to assault rifles, but the parents not securing said rifle enough. In this instance it is alleged that the rifle was registered to the gunmans mother, who no doubt went through a fairly strict routine to gain access to it, but it was not her who conducted the shooting spree.

Furthermore, unless you are able to telepathically read a persons mind, then it's quite possible to fib your way through a gun permit test, and get your gun.

Besides, even if they reban Assault rifles, it's not going to stop people using pistols for these kind of rampages, it might lower the body count a little but it won't stop it from happening. Even if you ban guns altogether, the proliferation of weapons in America means that the old saying regarding catapults will come into effect (if you outlaw catapults, only outlaws will have catapults).

EDIT: Oh, and not to make light of this, but someone should start the stopwatch until a media outlet reports that this gunman liked to play Call of Duty or some other FPS. Wait...just wait...

I think that much of what the media is stating is not founded they showed a State Police Officer and he made no mention of what type of fire arms where used only that there where two.One outlet says that one of the victims was the shooters mother yet the officials said nothing of this nature.

Media is media they need something to talk about so they say what they hear true or not.

Their is no gun permit "test" you must pass a background check which if you are a felon or have been certified with serious mental illness you will not be able to buy a fire arm in every state if you buy a hand gun there is a waiting period of a few days it varies by state and you must be 21 years old.To buy a rifle/shotgun/long arm you must be 18 and pass a background check you keep the gun the same day you buy.Of course at a a gun show the rules do not apply and you can also sell a gun privately (legally).At gun shows in many states sales are considered personal sale(like a private sale) and if there is a waiting period it does not apply depending on the state and county.Of course some people steal a legally owned weapon from someone else which is another can of worms.And if you are not a felony and not a verified loony(you may still be one) you'll pass the back ground check just fine.

Oberon 12-14-12 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1975759)
So many rumors.

CNN said it was a Ryan Lanza, even posted his picture, but Fox reports it was Adam Lanza. Someone did post SS of Ryan's FB where he was stating it wasn't him, he was at work and cussing CNN for posting his picture. Not sure same family.

Who knows, gonna be a mess and a day or so before we know the truth.

BBC at the moment has Ryan Lanza as being arrested and questioned by the police, but the shooter was apparently his brother Adam. But, yes, like you say, many rumours, as it always is this early in an event.

Jimbuna 12-14-12 04:32 PM

Reports on UK news are saying he killed his father before going to the school where his mother teaches.

He shot her then opened fire on her pupils.

His dead body is still in the school but it is not yet known how he died.

His younger brother is in Police custody.

I can't begin to imagine how the parents and families of those killed must be feeling :nope:

AVGWarhawk 12-14-12 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike88 (Post 1975746)
I can somewhat understand killing his parents if they had done something wrong to him, but there is no way that those kids in the school did anything wrong to him. It's time's like these I hope there is a Hell, so people like this can rot for an eternity in it.

For a serious lack of any other way to say this, he was pulling a, "I'll show you" at his mother. He had hand guns. Not the fully auto that randomly hits the target. The hand guns were up close, personal and final. I would say his mother was not the first target. She was to experience the horror first. Sadistic? Yes. I do believe this would have been his plan.

eddie 12-14-12 04:37 PM

I know one thing Jim, for years to come, those who lost children today, will never view the Christmas season the same way again. It will be more pain then happiness. I know it would be for me.

Oberon 12-14-12 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 1975769)
I know one thing Jim, for years to come, those who lost children today, will never view the Christmas season the same way again. It will be more pain then happiness. I know it would be for me.


Alas, too true.

Jimbuna 12-14-12 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 1975769)
I know one thing Jim, for years to come, those who lost children today, will never view the Christmas season the same way again. It will be more pain then happiness. I know it would be for me.

Most definitely :yep:

Stealhead 12-14-12 04:47 PM

This is what the New York Times says:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/ny...hool.html?_r=0


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