THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT MOD!

One reason people like me always return to SH3 is the fact the great mods like these still keep appearing. After I finish playing Fallout New Vegas I'll be sure to return to the game and try this mod.

To many thanks rudewarrior for her excellent work.
I have it in my LSH installation and it runs very well.
But because I German Jung, work I on a translation.
Are you interested in a publication of a German version?
I would work with pleasure with them.

Regards.

You're welcome!:up:
And thank you for the templates that I used for the orders. They made my life a lot easier!:salute:

I think that coming up with a German version would be a good project. What would have to be translated would be:

1. Each of the entries for the orders.
2. The notes that supplement the mod.
3. Everything written on the templates.
4. The radio messages.
5. The readme.

I actually took German for 4 years, way long ago in high school. I don't remember it enough to say whether or not it will be easy to translate. There may be an obstacle due to the terrible English I have used to make the mod. The sequence of translation is that I have taken an English translation of German and condensed it down to poorly written almost pidgin English to make it fit into the mod. So now that needs to be translated back into German, which means that it could wind up looking very ugly in its final form. Hopefully, it would be something that looks reasonable in the end.:88)

Thus it goes for me with English.:wah:

1. Each of the entries for the orders. Still Open
2. The notes that supplement the mod. In work
3. Everything written on the templates. Completely
4. The radio messages. In work
5. The readme. Still Open

Your source is: www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB.htm?
I translate it from there and from her Mod to understand the sense, because there is no German Orginal.
I do not work only, a couple of friends helping me.
It is still a little bit of work, if done, it was I send to you.

For the chart I would use another font, in order to be able to read it better. Is this OK?

Regards.

Ok, cool. If you get it all done, I should be able to easily make it into a German version. For the charts I can use a different font. I can't tell from what you are saying if you are just trying to translate the text on the templates, or edit it directly on the template itself. If you can just translate the text, I will put it on the template, so you don't have to worry about editing the actual drawing.

If you are only doing the translation, then carry on.:salute:

With this german version you make a really great job La Vache qui rit!:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Gruss Sepp

greeting rudewarrior

I have them sent to my Templates. Please check and say your opinion.

I have problems with the translation.

27 Jul 40: Ops in North Sea effectively end until the end of 1944. Any orders to patrol zones inside the North Sea area are to be ignored and/or reissued.

I found this entry does not and also not the sense.
But this entry.

17 Aug 40: The Fuehrer's orders, containing permission for unrestricted action against all vessels in the sea area around England, were passed to the boats.
17. August 40: Befehl des Führers, Erlaubnis für uneingeschränkte Waffeneinsatz gegen alle Schiffe im Seegebiet um England.

Says this is the same?

Thank you for your help.

The date files for SH3 Commander do not seem to be loading the correct order template files based on the current date of my patrol.

For example, I have started a patrol on 25 Aug 39, and the prize rules orders template loaded is for 1 Aug 39. This is correct. However, I have quit the game such that the current patrol date is 5 Sep 39. These means it should load the orders from the prize rules for 4 Sep 39. Is this the way SH3 Commander is actually supposed to work? I thought it could read the current date of the mission you were actually in, at least it says that in the manual. I've searched the forums and I can't find anything. Is it working properly for people using the mod? I thought I tested this before I released it. Is my mind playing tricks on me? What's going on here?:/\\!!

Hello rudewarrior

I briefly tested, all ok.

Why :hmm2:

regards La vache

SH3 Commander doesn't read the current date of the mission in-game, it only loads the date files when you first run SH3. If you want it to update the correct files you'll need to quit SH3 and load again.

Ok, so I don't think that is the question I am asking, so let me state it explicitly.

Let's say I start a patrol on 1 Jun 40. It will load a file in the folder SH3 Commander/Date/19400601. I patrol until 5 Jun 40, then save and quit the game completely. Lets say I have a file in SH3 Commander/Date/19400604. I run SH3 Commander and start the game again. Which file is it supposed to load? 19400601 or 19400604?

SH3 Commander loads all files before 19400604, i.e. it will load all files in 19400601 then load all files in 19400604. Unless you overwrite previous files you may end up with legacy information that you don't want.

The only way around this is by ensuring that all the files are named exactly the same but placed in different date folders. If the information is no longer valid, you'll need to overwrite it with a completely blank file, e.g if I have created an image.jpg file that I no longer need, I can replace it with another file named image.jpg or I need a completely empty jpeg file called image.jpg.

Ok, so this is what it is not doing.

What it is doing in this case: It is only loading the files from 19400601 and not the files from 19400604. Why?

I honestly don't know, unless it's something to do with the date that SH3 loads vs. the date that your patrol starts. When you load through SH3 Commander, does the date in Cmdr show 5 Jun 1940?

All it says is for the date is "After Sunday June 2, 1940." Technically I started the patrol on 2 Jun, but it shouldn't make any difference as that is still before 4 Jun.

If SH3 Commander says that the date is Sun Jun 2 1940 (box 4 on the right hand side of the initial SH3 Commander screen), it will load 19400601 and not 19400604 at it believes the date is 19400602.

It appears to me then that SH3 Commander does not read the date in the patrol, as I had originally thought. In mid-patrol, I have never seen box 4 say anything other than "After <patrol start date>." Have you seen it say anything other than that in mid-patrol? I know that if you are in base, it will show a current date, and I think it shows "N/a" if you are lost. Other than that, I don't think it says anything else.

It may be WAD.

I haven't saved mid-patrol for a long time, so unfortunately can't comment.

I agree with you though - I don't think that SH3 Commander reads dates mid-patrol but I also don't see this as an issue. You wouldn't be sent new charts mid-patrol but would continue to receive radio messages, which seems to fit in with what you are trying to achieve and improves the realism of your mod.

By the way - WAD?

It does work, but my original intent was for the orders templates, the ones that have the orders listed by text on draggable pages in the game, to be updated mid patrol. The reason for this is that during certain times of the year, the JFO! radio messages pile up in a couple of days. Plus if you use the Radio Log Extended Mod as well, that updated message that you received back at the beginning of the patrol 20 days ago is going to be tough to find by paging all the way back through all of the messages that you received since then.:nope:

What I am going to do is set up my JSGME such that I can add in the necessary files based on the current date of the patrol myself. That way my orders will always be up to date. There is just a lot of info on there that I would really like to have in game, which was the original point.:-?

We are working on a German version right now. When I release that I will update the readme to reflect the issues with SH3 Commander.

WAD - Working As Designed

:salute:

WAD - now I get it! :salute:

One potential way around the SH3 Commander problem is to have orders in the Date folder one month before they are to be implemented (I know of few people who have more than month-long patrols). You could then change the visible tab to say 'Kaleun Eyes only, not before 6 Jun 1941' or similar. That way they can 'open' their orders when they receive the radio message on the correct date.

Suboptimal, but workable...