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Madox58 04-01-12 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1864042)
On a side note, anybody know anything about sound editing? I'm planning on recording the engines so I can insert the sounds in the game.

What needs to be done to insert them (the engine sounds) into the game? Is there just the default engine sounds in the game or is is possible to link a new file with this model?

Adding sounds is a simple process. Work the dsd file and add the sdl stuff and your good to go.
Of course S3D will handle all that.
:up:

yubba 04-05-12 05:47 PM

About, time, or is this a april fools joke, that's why I waited to post, a pt campaign would be great, I worked on that pt 109 mod that was floating around in here and got it too work, torpedoes and all, but couldn't get rid of those butt ugly 20 mm tubs, figured out how to get the 40mm off the bow, that always made me sea sick. well good luck

nikimcbee 04-06-12 12:18 PM

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is this a april fools joke
Nope. Real deal. A campaign would be cool. Gualdalcanal/Solomons or Philippines (44-45) would be the best one to do. Go get your seabag Yubba and come on board.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...tGV1mz-L0Hm08b

nikimcbee 04-06-12 12:59 PM

update 4.6.12

Video added

Madox58 04-13-12 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1865714)
About, time, or is this a april fools joke, that's why I waited to post, a pt campaign would be great, I worked on that pt 109 mod that was floating around in here and got it too work, torpedoes and all, but couldn't get rid of those butt ugly 20 mm tubs, figured out how to get the 40mm off the bow, that always made me sea sick. well good luck

I spoke with nikimcbee on the phone today.
:yep:

My understanding is that We are going to create a playable Higgins that matches the PT he is involved with in real life.
:up:

There's alot of areas that help will be needed in and I have waved any rewards offered.
(That means I will not accept rewards so they can be given to those that assist if they want them.)

I am re-installing SH4 to test the Alpha PT and do some special animation work as a start.

3D work is also under way for a better visual in all areas.
If there is a need for anything special?
It will be created.
:03:

nikimcbee 04-13-12 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1869460)
I spoke with nikimcbee on the phone today.
:yep:

My understanding is that We are going to create a playable Higgins that matches the PT he is involved with in real life.
:up:

There's alot of areas that help will be needed in and I have waved any rewards offered.
(That means I will not accept rewards so they can be given to those that assist if they want them.)

I am re-installing SH4 to test the Alpha PT and do some special animation work as a start.

3D work is also under way for a better visual in all areas.
If there is a need for anything special?
It will be created.
:03:

http://t2ak.roblox.com/826fbe50ce64a8b9e44fbe5a09d738c1



I got 2 books mailed off today. Yell when you get them.

Madox58 04-14-12 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1865714)
About, time, or is this a april fools joke, that's why I waited to post, a pt campaign would be great, I worked on that pt 109 mod that was floating around in here and got it too work, torpedoes and all, but couldn't get rid of those butt ugly 20 mm tubs, figured out how to get the 40mm off the bow, that always made me sea sick. well good luck

Could you share your adjusted files?
It would make it much easier to work on the torpedo roll off animations.

Madox58 04-14-12 05:11 PM

Sh4 installed and did a quick test of the PT alpha.

Went digging through different DVD's and found alot of good 3D stuff that was intended for GWX 4.

They've just found a new home.
:D

The .50 cal needs a small bit of work to make the twin look proper but that's minor work.

I also was notified today that I should have 2 weeks off before my next job on the road.
:rock:

Madox58 04-16-12 03:12 PM

Package arrived today.
:rock:

Lots of questions I had were answered just flipping through the books.
:yep:

Looking for proper colors to use for the texture I found this......
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...erPatternA.jpg

1944 20L MasterPattern

I'm nearly ready to check the new hull and deck work in Game but would like to get the textures placed on it.
So are the colors right? or can you give me a better selection?

http://www.pt103.com
Has some great reference stuff also.

As I was looking at the in-Game .50 cal for use to build the twin, I noticed the scale is wrong in areas but it's a good model to work with.
Now there's another area that I need to think on.
The twin .50's rotate in two areas right? At the first mounting point below the Guns. And then the whole thing rotates by useing your body, correct?
This may not be possible to do in SH4 correctly.
Once I get to modeling that area I'll try a few thoughts I have but no promises on it.

nikimcbee 04-16-12 04:13 PM

Rgr that. I'll look up the paint color later. Knee deep in work now:dead:.

Madox58 04-17-12 01:41 PM

Testing the new Hull and deck with black and white texture.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...ull_Test_1.jpg

nikimcbee 04-17-12 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1871183)
Rgr that. I'll look up the paint color later. Knee deep in work now:dead:.


Some other schemes carried by PT boats were:
Measure 31/5P - This scheme utilized Navy Green and Ocean Green.
Measure 31/20L - This scheme combined Black, Green #2 and Green #3.

http://www.ptboatworld.com/PT_Boat_I...lorschemes.htm

Madox58 04-17-12 04:09 PM

The image was a quick hull-deck for looking at UVeing things.
I'll add the colors to it after the hull-deck is reworked to bring it into proper shape.

Here's a great site for details.
http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cd...ISOROOT=%2FHIC

I managed to cut together some great details on the shape of the deck and hull.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...-Details_1.jpg

This is a very low version of what I have.
That's 2198 X 1236.

Hylander_1314 04-17-12 06:50 PM

Here's a site that has large scale R?C PT Bpoats, with lots of cool pics and vids that might be helpful.

http://www.franksmosquitoboathobbies.com/intro.htm

Back in the mid 90s I constructed the Dumas 1/20th scale PT-109, which measured 48in. from stem to stern.

I finished it in solid forest green which I had phoyos from in the old Webster's WWII Encyclopedia. I also had some reseach info I found that stated in the early part of the war smaller vessels usually had a basic finish of dark green or forest green as they called it. Even DDs and DEs were done in that color.

Later in the war, different camo schemes were adopted from what was stated.

Glad to see the MTBs getting an overhaul! Would be neat if the early ELCOs could be seen like MTB Sq. 3 in Manila had.

Is it planned to overhaul the ELCO in SH4 too?

Looking forward to this, even if we only see them in harbors or close to bases.

nikimcbee 04-17-12 07:39 PM

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Is it planned to overhaul the ELCO in SH4 too?

Looking forward to this, even if we only see them in harbors or close to bases.
Hopefully, we (privateer or willing modder) will be able to do this with late war load outs and correct configuration. The main goal for this mod is a playable Higgins.

yubba 04-17-12 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1870016)
Could you share your adjusted files?
It would make it much easier to work on the torpedo roll off animations.

give me a few on that, have to find it, and you can explain how I can up load it too you, what I'll do is send you the whole boat, since it fires torps like a submarine you have too open tubes for torps to load into tubes, down side no torps leaping out of tubes, but they work and do the job, it was probably by acciedent that I got it to work. I go look now.

Madox58 04-17-12 07:50 PM

The Elco hull is kind of what I used in the above test pictures.

The Elco and Higgins Hulls are a close match but not perfect in several areas.

As nikimcbee (and the others involved with PT-658) want a Higgins? I want the Hull adjusted properly.
The stuff on Deck is simple but the Hull and Bridge areas make the Boat!
I spent days getting the best details to re-build the Hull.

Simple plans I found often mistake the Elco Hull with the Higgins and vis-versa.

By the way.
I did not know the 658 was slated to go to Russia but never delivered.
:o

Madox58 04-17-12 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1871797)
give me a few on that, have to find it, and you can explain how I can up load it too you, what I'll do is send you the whole boat, since it fires torps like a submarine you have too open tubes for torps to load into tubes, down side no torps leaping out of tubes, but they work and do the job, it was probably by acciedent that I got it to work. I go look now.


I'll PM you my e-mail address.
You can then attach the files through the E-mail.
Is that OK?

Hylander_1314 04-17-12 07:53 PM

Sounds good!

I know the trouble with the PTs, in the past, was getting the torpedoes to fire properly. Same issue plagued torpedo bombers, with dropping torpedoes, as they went all over the place, or would circle and head north.

Hope you guys get it sorted out!

The Higgins Boats would great for Medeterainian or English Channel career.

Madox58 04-17-12 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314 (Post 1871801)
Sounds good!

I know the trouble with the PTs, in the past, was getting the torpedoes to fire properly. Same issue plagued torpedo bombers, with dropping torpedoes, as they went all over the place, or would circle and head north.

Hope you guys get it sorted out!

The Higgins Boats would great for Medeterainian or English Channel career.

As I did research?
I found the Higgins very much over looked.
They get a glanceing spot at most PT Boat sites.
Most do the Elco to death.
:nope:

The link I posted above is a fantastic site for details of the Higgins.
But you need to cheat as I did to capture good images.

When you find a plan that addresses the area you want..........
Right click the image and select properties,

Copy the image link and paste into a new tab,

Change the scale and width/height settings in the address bar.
Scale just change to 20, width/height should both be 6000

:03:


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