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Platapus 03-23-12 08:32 PM

We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

mookiemookie 03-23-12 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1859882)
How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

I'd say it's happening now. If I were interviewing someone under the age of 40 and they didn't have some form of social network account, I'd be suspicious.

TFatseas 03-23-12 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1859885)
I'd say it's happening now. If I were interviewing someone under the age of 40 and they didn't have some form of social network account, I'd be suspicious.

Well, I'm screwed then.:hmmm:

Don't do the social networking stuff, nor have an interest in pursuing it.

Heck, I use my phone to TALK on, not text. It's like a lost art with my generation.

August 03-23-12 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1859882)
We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

I would say it's already happening. Unless you are of a certain age claims of not having a facebook account is likely to be seen by an employer as trying to hide something.

TFatseas 03-23-12 11:58 PM

Huh

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/23/te...ers/index.html

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(CNN) -- Facebook has weighed in on a practice by some businesses asking employees or job applicants for their passwords to the popular social-media site.
In a nutshell? Facebook says don't do it unless you want to get sued.

Rest at link.

Sailor Steve 03-24-12 12:53 PM

I like FaceBook. It keeps me in touch with my kids, and with my actual friends (as opposed to network friends).

Give someone my password? I'll give them a word alright. Maybe some combinations of words.

antikristuseke 03-24-12 01:06 PM

I'd give them an entire list of words in several languages.

eddie 03-24-12 02:15 PM

No Facebook account here either, if I need to talk to my 3 kids or to the grandkids, emails work fine or I actually use a phone.:DL

Since I'm over 60, am I excused for not having one?;)

TLAM Strike 03-24-12 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1859832)
Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1859841)
Crap. Time to change my forum password.

Tak are you really the president of Syria?
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5852/...hwartzwasn.png

:hmmm:

:haha:

soopaman2 03-24-12 03:51 PM

My wife had to sign a form at her job stating she would not talk bad about the company on social media.

I won't say the name, but will say they are a multinational corporation with interests in Europe, UK, and America.

She was appalled by it. I gave her the cynical George Orwell, "I told ya so", I usually give with stuff like this.

So if this guy gets his way, how can he regulate a corp. based in the Netherlands, or even worse China?

Big Corps will tell our government to go play with ourselves....And they will. No matter how much mock outrage.

This is election year bullcrap.

Platapus 03-24-12 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1860277)
My wife had to sign a form at her job stating she would not talk bad about the company on social media.

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Sad that the employer thought this was necessary. I was brought up not to bite the hand that feeds you or to translate in this context: Bon't badmouth the people that are paying you money that allows you to feed your family. :yep:. It is not very professional.

I guess people are not brought up that way any more. :shifty:

soopaman2 03-25-12 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1860375)
Sad that the employer thought this was necessary. I was brought up not to bite the hand that feeds you or to translate in this context: Bon't badmouth the people that are paying you money that allows you to feed your family. :yep:. It is not very professional.

I guess people are not brought up that way any more. :shifty:

Are you implying something? It sure sounds like you are.

My wife does not even have a facebook or twitter account, this was done company-wide.

My wife does not badmouth her company in public, nor feels any need to, she just felt betrayed after given years of trust, considering she is in a managment position. Assume all are disloyal, is the vibe she caught from it.


I am offended by your assumptions.:shifty::down:

And I am really restraining myself.

mookiemookie 03-25-12 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1860778)
Are you implying something? It sure sounds like you are.

My wife does not even have a facebook or twitter account, this was done company-wide.

My wife does not badmouth her company in public, nor feels any need to, she just felt betrayed after given years of trust, considering she is in a managment position. Assume all are disloyal, is the vibe she caught from it.


I am offended by your assumptions.:shifty::down:

And I am really restraining myself.

I don't think he was implying that it was your wife specifically. I think he was talking more in general terms. At least that's the way I took it.

Platapus 03-25-12 07:31 PM

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Two U.S. senators will ask the Justice Department to investigate whether employers who require job applicants to hand over confidential passwords to Facebook and other social networking sites are violating federal law, the lawmakers said today.

New York Senator Charles Schumer, the Senate’s third- ranking Democrat, and Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, will ask the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to examine the practice as well.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5...ctice.html.csp


That's good news anyway. I can not see any justification for requiring the surrender of passwords. The employer is free to access the public side of anyone's facebook and make hiring/firing decisions based on this information in a Right to Work State. But asking for passwords makes no sense.


I am glad that Justice and EEOC are being asked to look into this. I hope the individual states follow suit.

soopaman2 03-25-12 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1860786)
I don't think he was implying that it was your wife specifically. I think he was talking more in general terms. At least that's the way I took it.

Thats cool, I just do not want my old lady lumped in with the "social hens" , who feel a need to tweet when they are taking a dump. If I jumped unfairly then I am sorry, if I didn't, then well...

Just me being me:DL

Though this is more about intrusion of privacy. The government can't even access passcodes without some kind of good legal reasons, why do corporations get carte blanche to do what our government cannot?

Because they own our govern.....*gunshot*

mookiemookie 03-25-12 10:42 PM

It's a very simple answer if you're ever asked to hand over your personal passwords. Tell them you won't hand them over unless the interviewer hands over the password to the company network. I mean you have to have access to all of those trade secrets and confidential data to see what kind of company it is that you'd be working for, right?

Platapus 03-26-12 06:23 PM

North Virginia is a "Right to work" state. I remember when I was hired by my first company, I had to sign an agreement acknowledging that while the company could fire me at any time, I was required to give the company 2 weeks notice.

Nice to see fairness and equality in an employment contract. :shifty:

MothBalls 03-26-12 08:21 PM

No facebook, twitter, myspace, nothing, ever. Never had and never will. I keep up with friends by doing things with them, talking to them on the phone, and the occasional email with a picture or a joke. A few years back had a client ask me to get on Linkedin and I refused.

My "persona" here on Subsim is about as public as it gets. I was trying to get the name "Mothballed" but it was taken, so mothballs was close enough. Aside from videos games and the occasional forum visit, I try to stay offline. SO much data mining going on. If someone wants to know something about me they can ask me.

August 03-26-12 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1861219)
North Virginia is a "Right to work" state. I remember when I was hired by my first company, I had to sign an agreement acknowledging that while the company could fire me at any time, I was required to give the company 2 weeks notice.

Nice to see fairness and equality in an employment contract. :shifty:

Y'know they asked me to agree to the same thing, a month after being hired. My question then as now is "or what"? I've never really gotten a satisfactory answer.

mookiemookie 03-26-12 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1861280)
Y'know they asked me to agree to the same thing, a month after being hired. My question then as now is "or what"? I've never really gotten a satisfactory answer.

Heh...good one!

I was laid off in 2005 and they gave me three months of severance pay. I had to come in and train someone else to be my replacement though. I figured they kind of had me over a barrel on that one as they could have said "ok, you don't come in, we cut off your severance."

They had to call me and call me but I finally came in for about an hour and begrudgingly gave the most halfassed training session possible. Jackasses. :nope:


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