I think the most serious question to ask here is...

Why are people taking this thread seriously?

Stop it. :O:

Good point! It was, in fairness, a failed impeachment, but it did set some very dangerous possibilities open for the future. That said, I wouldn't take the threat very seriously right now. I don't think those same neocon GOP members are in a position to benefit from this kind of scenario at the moment anyway. If they can't take Obama down in the elections, they would probably only polarize and offend voters more by maneuvers like this.


We're nerds and can't help it :O:

That implies logic that often defies a mob mentality which would seem to be an apt description these days. It's not beyond the possible simply by inertia.

No matter what year or political season it is, impeachment talk is always dirt cheap. :zzz:

When it all goes to hell in a hand basket what will it matter, we'll be too busy in our backyards looking for worms to eat.

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HHHHM, free protein

I love how Obama is generalized as a communist or socialist. When him and nearly all politician are more fascist in policies than anything. Socialist really? You guys love bailing out banks, but hate Cost of Living raises for the elderly. How is it socialism when you pay into it your entire life, then it is used to fund a war. That sounds more like thievery to me. Blame the poor for our governments excesses. Yeah spoken like a true fascist.

Or is the OP just so blindly partisan he can't see the evils of our system as a whole?

I feel sorry for you, and mean that in a heartfelt way. It makes perfect sense why we have the government we do right now.

Joseph McCarthy (R) called, he wants his lingo, and 60 year old cold war fear mongering back.

There is a lot of truth in that snark, Takeda.

On the other hand, I have to say that as I have grown older and wiser in the ways of the world, I have learned that there are subjects where a dismissive attitude is the correct one. At least the ones that you've heard and debunked so many times before that having to repeat it has become tedious beyond belief.

I still listen, though. Then, if it turns out the argument belongs in the "the Moon landings were faked!" category, I just shake my had, chuckle and move along.

You enjoy your worms.

I'll be drinking my victory brand gin, and smoking crap cigs where most the tobacco falls out.

Better than what the proles get at least. Oh it is time for the 3 minute hate, where we curse Emmanuel Goldstien (Osama, Iran, Syria) and praise the patriot act.

I wonder what the backlash would be if the Patriot act was founded under Obama....

Hmmm?

If you miss our current direction towards something Orwell wrote, then you are blind.

And yes, the blame is truly partyless, it is our fault, for choosing a political sportsteam mentality for our nation.

Come to think of it: Wasn't that horrible violation of privacy rights, the Patriot Act, renewed three times by Obama?

And how come that drone strikes etc. are suddenly a-OK now that it's not an evil Republican doing them?

What's the word I'm looking for? Begins with an "H"... Hmm... Still working on it. Rhymes with "leprosy"...

Ah yes, I've got it: Hypocrisy!

Your point? Maybe if a repub strong congress didn't fillibuster anything that would help the people in order to make the nigg, I uhh mean Barry Soetoro, Err Obama into a one term president, as admitted, we would be in a better place today.

But because partisan politics, and pledges to Grover Norquist are more important than the people, and what is best to the country, I suppose us normal folks have to take the abuse.

You ask as if I like my current president. He is simply better than the other options.


I'm still waiting for the "for the people, by the people part"

So you think me contradictory, because I like the black kenyan in office.

Better than the options sir.

Hypocrite? (does not rhyme with leprosy, kinda a stretch) No, I simply want our rights back, that we bent over and gave them out of fear after 9-11.

Crap like this, the extensions as you mentioned is what makes me believe we are similar to fascist Italy at this point.

But conservatives like the status quo, see my sig on my opinions of how well the status quo works.

Feed the corps, starves the proles. The true southern conservative way.

To think we once freed the slaves, now our government works to make all of slaves to it super PAC benfactors, thanks citizens United decision, a conservative supreme court ruling...

And you wonder why people are forced to democrats?

Give us a viable non partisan choice. No anti tax pledges to Grover Norquist. No backroom dealings with George Soros. For the freaking people, by the people.

or else....
It is our right to change it, regardless of anti protesting laws they may pass. These rights were given to us by our founders, who saw us as free men, not corporate puppets.

So tell us why you hate Obama? I already blew any socialist arguments out the water, it is well established he is as fascist as any (R)...

Sooooo.

No sir..he is about the same as the other options.

I have no counterpoint to offer, nor will I.

As leftist as I come across, I have voted republican more times in my adult life.

My defense of the spinless one is not partisanship, but a fear of the far right winger choices.

Mc Cain was so moderate, why did Palin have to mess it up for him? Why? Why? Why?

I was a McCain (warhero centrist republican) shoe in until Palin came around. She makes Joe Biden look like FDR.

Possibly because the strikes done now seem to obliterate higher value targets (Al Queda leadership. Taliban leaders, etc) than when the previous administration launched their strikes; to paraphrase Voltaire, "Sucess is the best deodorant"...

Amen to that!...

I have a rather cynical acquaintance who has this theory: the GOP leadership knew just how badly the Bush administration had screwed up the economy and they knew the worst was yet to come as a result of those failures after Bush left office; not wanting a GOP member in the White House when the Bandini hit the fan, they put a "poison pill" in the 2008 campaign in the form of Palin. Therefore, a Dem presides over the maelstrom of economic failure, the GOP gets a "free kick" in the form of having a Dem to kick around with minimal blame on themselves, and then the GOP can take back the White House just as they economy begins to come around, taking credit for the "rescue of" the economy...

I don't think this was a GOP master plan, because I don't think the GOP leadership is that smart (as evidenced by the "sterling" candidates they are fielding, so far), but, I must admit, if the idea didn't sound like something out of a political novel, it would rate some consideration... :hmmm:

I like the drone strikes.

It don't cost me a plane ticket to DC to attend family members funerals.

Ceremonies at Arlington are beautiful, but twice as sad for some reason...

Maybe because you know they died for rich people, and Cheneys little mercenary company.

But I am just a pinko commie pig right?

Pardon my back to back posts, but I type slow and caught this late.

But YES!

They were simply setting themselves up for 2012, and were willing to drive the country into the toilet to meet those goals.

Obama is going to win by default. Not because he is good, but because is is less harmful to the majority than the other options. Good job Repubs, no one else to blame but your extremism.

The man who says little, has more credibility than the man who says too much....Add that to the damn proverb thread, Soopaman2 said it, quote me..

Typos happen:salute:

A well known fact is that academia is dominated by lefties.I have a few professors who are fair but most are far left and make it pretty well known.I mentioned( just a few times) that I am in law school because it is a pertinent fact when discussing certain things namely law etc , not because I am attempting to give my statements more "weight" as you put it.